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Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian21 Mar 2019 10:52 a.m. PST

…It's the first time since we've been here in Syria for five days that the bombs have stopped dropping and the gunfire has disappeared. We have witnessed the end of the caliphate – the brutal empire that once ruled over 8 million people – is gone…

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Pan Marek21 Mar 2019 11:05 a.m. PST

I'll wait for what the military has to say.

PzGeneral21 Mar 2019 11:07 a.m. PST

Let us all pray the story is really true…..

Winston Smith21 Mar 2019 12:04 p.m. PST

ISIS was only secondarily about territory held.
Prisoners will eventually be released.
Then, lather, rinse, repeat.
Or, something new will come along. Same old, same old.

Remember Senator Aiken during Vietnam? "Why don't we just declare victory and come home."
What's that I hear? A victory declaration???
Implement Part B. Either that, or Tar Baby.

Pan Marek21 Mar 2019 12:36 p.m. PST

Winston +1

pzivh43 Supporting Member of TMP21 Mar 2019 1:29 p.m. PST

They are like cockroaches.

Personal logo Parzival Supporting Member of TMP21 Mar 2019 2:21 p.m. PST

Oh good grief. This is NOT Vietnam. Not even close.

ISIS the terror group cannot probably be "destroyed," as any nut job can call themselves "ISIS" and do something violent, bloody and stupid. It will eventually fade away, though, as other organizations instead draw away the supply of fanatical nut jobs.

But, ISIS the self-proclaimed "Caliphate?" Yeah, that's kaput. I'm sure some nut jobs will still try to run around stirring things up again. But massive failure to achieve what you claimed the first time around, while bringing misery to millions who are now really p'o'ed at you (and armed) tends to squash retries. In this respect, I think a claim of victory is quite real.

No, the next problem in that region won't be ISIS. It will be something else. What Assad does next will be part of it. But there are plenty of violent, bloody-minded, stupid people running around that part of the world ready to make everybody else miserable given half a chance, along with leaders quite willing to use them either as pawns or excuses for their own ends.

And that's as far as I'll go with that, because this is veering dangerously into political territory. Let's just acknowledge that a bunch of horrible people have met their well-deserved end. And be happy that their ideology is therefore also rendered even more questionable in the eyes of those otherwise inclined to believe such nonsense. Nothing says, "You know, maybe you don't have divine authority on your side" like getting your Bleeped text handed to you in spades.

Gear Pilot21 Mar 2019 3:14 p.m. PST

Stirring up trouble is the only thig that makes them relevant. Otherwise, we would never think about that part of the world at all.

charared21 Mar 2019 8:24 p.m. PST

+ 1 Parzival

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Zephyr121 Mar 2019 8:56 p.m. PST

Need to put the cherry on the top of the whole mess by covertly taking out the money men behind the terror group(s). 'cause you know they aren't anywhere near a battlefield…

Personal logo Herkybird Supporting Member of TMP22 Mar 2019 4:05 p.m. PST

I do worry that having kicked over the ant-hill, where do the surviving ants go?

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