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Templar215 May 2019 8:15 a.m. PST

Randy has indicated that he was swamped with orders and therefore will answer questions in June, last order will be shipped 05-31-2019, any order not shipped by than will be reimbursed.

Bryan will go to Minnesota end of May to pick up the mold and remaining stock, if you look at his website, he has created the stock item numbers for all PFC 1/285 items he will be manufacturing and distributing.

After May, Randy is keeping the ships and all 3 Scifi ranges SEM, Ren Leg and PFC proprietary range and will complete my SEM range (about 15 new SKU tp be released).

This is what I believe the situation to be based on my discussion with Randy and Bryan

Gerard (SEM sponsor)

Legion 415 May 2019 2:04 p.m. PST

thumbs up Good to hear !

Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian15 May 2019 6:01 p.m. PST

Still no answer on what Randy is doing with regard to his debts. He's not talking.

Legion 416 May 2019 4:45 a.m. PST

No surprise I'd guess … business debts, etc. are usually a civil legal matter. So he probably couldn't/wouldn't say anyway …

Regardless … I want my SEM !!!!!! huh? evil grin

Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian16 May 2019 7:23 p.m. PST

I'm talking about his debts to TMP. grin

Legion 417 May 2019 11:56 a.m. PST


beingshort119 May 2019 3:01 p.m. PST

Hopefully all will fine in the end an we can keep building up armies with these great minis.

Legion 420 May 2019 5:35 a.m. PST

Here's to hoping !!! thumbs up

Personal logo Yellow Admiral Supporting Member of TMP21 May 2019 1:05 p.m. PST

Bryan will go to Minnesota end of May to pick up the mold and remaining stock, if you look at his website, he has created the stock item numbers for all PFC 1/285 items he will be manufacturing and distributing.
Who is Bryan and which web site is his?

I'm fond of all of C-in-C's work, and I'm trying to keep track of where it all goes. (And I was this close <pinches fingers> to buying a bunch of sci fi stuff when Randy stopped taking orders. I hope to get a second chance.)

- Ix

Templar221 May 2019 6:37 p.m. PST

Brian Gwiazda is the owner of

LegionsIVhire located in Winnipeg Canada

But remember that the Scifi stuff will remain with Randy


Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian21 May 2019 8:15 p.m. PST

Brian is not responding to emails either. Bad sign. frown

Legion 422 May 2019 5:19 a.m. PST

Thanks Templar2 ! thumbs up

Templar222 May 2019 5:51 a.m. PST

Yesterday, on LegionsIVHire facebook page Bryan indicated:

Order for PFC expected first week of June full restock mid June and catalogue completed

Bryan is very active on his Facebook page, Bill, maybe you should try contacting him via facebook.



Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian22 May 2019 1:51 p.m. PST

I have his email. He responded once. He stopped talking to me when I asked about the debt. frown

Valderian24 May 2019 6:23 a.m. PST

For Europe, who will sell their miniatures, except Wargames Emporium?

Templar224 May 2019 12:40 p.m. PST


Currently Wargame Emporium in the UK and Master of Military in Germany have distribution agreement, would suggest you email Bryan (the new owner of 1/285 PFC WW2 and Modern but not SciFi) at LegionsIVHire to see what will happen in the future.



Valderian24 May 2019 1:37 p.m. PST

Many thanks!

Templar203 Jun 2019 12:55 p.m. PST

Quick update,

Bryan (the owner of LEGIONSIVHIRE) was with Randy (PFC) in Minnesota over the week-end to pick up the molds and remaining stock for the modern and WWII 1/285 C-in-C.

I am hoping that Randy will start releasing the remaining SEM skus in my range☺


Legion 403 Jun 2019 2:08 p.m. PST

I do to G !!!! I do too … thumbs up

Valderian05 Jun 2019 10:52 a.m. PST

Can you please tell me what is the site of Master of Military from Germany. I cannot find it.

Legion 405 Jun 2019 11:39 a.m. PST

Try this link for MoM/SEM …

Valderian05 Jun 2019 12:38 p.m. PST

Thank you! That specific link does not work, but the site does…

Legion 406 Jun 2019 2:00 p.m. PST

thumbs up

ptdockyard08 Jun 2019 4:21 a.m. PST

Sorry to see them go even though I stepped away from 1/2400 and 1/285 years ago. I met them at Origins 1978 and 79 and they were great folks. When I started in micro armor in the late 70's they did the early Sherman, Hellcat and M-10 years ahead of GHQ.They also did beautiful French armor years ahead of the GHQ.

I will miss their planes. That 1/285 P-40….ooo la la….

Templar214 Aug 2020 10:58 a.m. PST

The website has not changed since December 2019, no new newsletter. Is PFC C-in-C still in business? Has anyone ordered from them recently?

I have tried contacting him but as usual, no answer

Thanks for your help


StarCruiser14 Aug 2020 12:41 p.m. PST

Depending on what you are looking for, you may need to contact these folks:

PFC C-in-C sold off a lot of their molds to Legions IV Hire a while back.

Legion 414 Aug 2020 1:50 p.m. PST

I have heard nothing … but I am interested in their SEM line …

Personal logo Yellow Admiral Supporting Member of TMP15 Aug 2020 12:24 a.m. PST

I've ordered from C-in-C twice since the move, after the web site announced that orders were being accepted again. Both times the order took a looooooong time to arrive (months!), but did eventually arrive.

- Ix

Legion 415 Aug 2020 5:52 a.m. PST

Guess I should ask him if he is still doing the SEM line ?

Andy ONeill15 Aug 2020 6:12 a.m. PST

Sounds like maybe small orders are advisable.

Personal logo Yellow Admiral Supporting Member of TMP15 Aug 2020 11:20 a.m. PST

The SEM line is still available. That's what I ordered.

- Ix

Legion 415 Aug 2020 2:01 p.m. PST

Really ? 😮 I'm looking for the new SEM stuff he has not released yet. Is he still at the same site, etc. ?

FYI – I just went to the PFC/CinC site and all the SEM is still the older stuff. He still has not posted pics about 1/3 of the existing SEM Line either … 😣😕

Personal logo Yellow Admiral Supporting Member of TMP15 Aug 2020 9:43 p.m. PST

C-in-C is still doing business at the old site:

All of the SEM and other sci-fi stuff from the old inventory list that I was aware of is on the site. I haven't gone exhaustively through all of it to be sure it can all be ordered, but I have ordered some SEM items, some FASA items, and some of the generic 6mm "science fiction" items, and I got them all. I'm not aware of any listed items being discontinued or out of production.

Both orders I received had a hand written note apologizing for the delay (and complaining about how screwed up the move was, heh). I don't think he's having the best experience settling back into production, but he does seem to be trying.

- Ix

Legion 416 Aug 2020 5:58 a.m. PST

Yes I see that, thanks ! On the Legions IV Hire FB page it looks like he is starting to get some of the original SEM line. Hopefully either or both will start to carry the new SEM I've seen in Greens, etc. 🙏 I ain't get'n any younger ! old fart

Formerly 298TYR17 Aug 2020 2:56 a.m. PST

Their web page doesn't appear to allow you to browse or purchase their excellent Modern range.

laretenue17 Aug 2020 4:10 a.m. PST

Legions also seems to be among those companies whose stock availability remains does not get updated. I've been waiting for months for their Pz.IVGs to become available once again.

See also my previous gripes against FAA. Now there's a company which doesn't seem that interested in supplying its market. I do hope this isn't now true of L4H.

I'm not unaware that many companies are struggling with the extra constraints of the pandemic, so I hope I'm not being unfair. But late-war Pz.IVs are a pretty central item, and I have difficulty understanding why something so obvious has not yet been restocked.

L4H: my order awaits.

Legion 417 Aug 2020 5:56 a.m. PST

The 6mm SEM Range has a number of new models/figures that have been awaiting release for about 2-3 years or more. PFC/CinC was carrying the entire line … but now ? 🤔😥😕😡🤬

I've been waiting to see these what seem like forever … 💀👻

Armed civilians irregulars 10 greens [Guerillas/Insurgents]

MARTHAK droids 5 castings [Look kind of like Minions but w/hvy wpns]

Kanga wild [Horned bi-pedal bovine type beast]
Kanga with baggage " " "

Robot 1
Robot 2 [CYLON Mk.1]
Robot light walker
Robot heavy walker

Ga-Ule clan leader on throne [Felids]
Ga-Ule civilians male female teen male teen female so 4 greens

Emperor on throne
Emperor guards in beret
Emperor guard Pretorian

Newtonners 9 casts Tall "Enhanced" Humans
Newtonners heavy weapons 3 or 4
Newtonners 8 legged lizard

Air crews 2 figures
Ground crews 3 figs

"STARGATE" [not the TV one!]

Randy ?

Bryan ?

Bueller ?

Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian18 Aug 2020 5:39 p.m. PST

Still no response from C-in-C to our emails.

Legion 419 Aug 2020 7:36 a.m. PST

Nor mine … 😕

CSparrow04 Sep 2020 2:33 p.m. PST

Hi all. Im new here.
I ordered a couple of 1/4800 ships sets two weeks ago (and payed for them).
I have got no feedback from PFC-Cinc save an (seemingly) automated response acknowledging the order. No answers to my emails either.
Should I panic, or do you think there is a chance I will receive my tiny ships?
Best regards.


Marcus Brutus04 Sep 2020 6:22 p.m. PST

Tell me Bill how the new owner of the C-in-C molds is responsible for debt incurred by the former owner? These are two different companies are they not? Just curious.

Personal logo Yellow Admiral Supporting Member of TMP05 Sep 2020 11:13 a.m. PST

C-in-C is still owned by the same person. He just semi-retired the company by selling off most of the miniatures lines to Legions IV Hire. All that's left on the C-in-C web site is sci-fi and model railroading stuff.

I just placed another order for some SEM items, and am slowly refining another order for some more. (I keep thinking my Ogre/GEV project is "finished", then thinking of just a few more things needed to round it out…) It took weeks last time, so I'll be happily surprised if anything arrives before December.

- Ix

Personal logo Yellow Admiral Supporting Member of TMP05 Sep 2020 11:16 a.m. PST

I ordered a couple of 1/4800 ships sets two weeks ago (and payed for them).
These are no longer listed on the C-in-C web site. How did you order them?

Edit: It looks like a Google search for 1/4800 naval miniatures turns up the old links to the C-in-C web site, and clicking through, they still work. I was able to place a 1/4800 item in my cart. I would recommend against doing this; if you can't get it through the "front door" of the web site (from the items listed in the catalog), and the owner didn't respond and say he'd do a custom order for you, you probably can't get it. The C-in-C web site was never the sleekest web shopping experience, and I never had the feeling the owner was fully on top of it. He probably doesn't know that it's still possible to order lines he retired because a search engine is getting people into his web cart through a back door.

- Ix

CSparrow05 Sep 2020 3:09 p.m. PST

Yeah, I did exactly that. The items I ordered were labeled "in stock", and all the process went smooth and fine. In fact I didn't realize that was kind of a "back door", since I got there that way in the first place and not trough the main page.
Paypal payment was processed faultlessly as well.

It is not a huge order, and I am more worried about not getting the ships than loosing some bucks, but hey, I dont like the idea of a working web shop without someone at the helm!

CSparrow07 Sep 2020 1:54 p.m. PST

Hi all, just an update and good news.
I received an email today stating the minis are on their way!
I'll tell you when they arrive at my place.

Legion 407 Sep 2020 2:57 p.m. PST

Well that is some news !

hindsTMP Supporting Member of TMP09 Sep 2020 1:08 a.m. PST


Interesting that you got a response to the 1/4800 order. I wonder if that means he is still planning on extending the line, as rumored in another TMP thread.


CSparrow09 Sep 2020 5:51 a.m. PST

That would be great for sure, but I'm a bit skeptic.

Legion 409 Sep 2020 6:34 a.m. PST

When I have the new SEM models in my paws … I'll stop being skeptical … 🐾 But they better hurry up … I ain't getting any younger ! 🧟‍♂️☠👻

CSparrow25 Sep 2020 12:37 p.m. PST

Hi again mates!
This is to confirm I received my 1/4800 ships today. And they are NICE!

So CinC still in operation, and not the slowest service if I may add.


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