"Lifespan of Ancient Civilizations" Topic
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Editor in Chief Bill | 23 Feb 2019 9:50 a.m. PST |
…In the graphic below, I have compared the lifespan of various civilisations, which I define as a society with agriculture, multiple cities, military dominance in its geographical region and a continuous political structure… link |
Erzherzog Johann | 23 Feb 2019 5:46 p.m. PST |
Interesting. Ptolemaic Egypt [302] Ptolemaic [290] |
Lascaris | 23 Feb 2019 9:05 p.m. PST |
I'm struggling with how the author has the Byzantine Empire at 350 years. Even if you wait until the fall of the Western Empire, you're still looking at just under 1,000 years. edit: I missed that he truncates his data at 600AD. That skews the data for empires that were extant at that date and continued for a significant time afterwards. |
Lewisgunner | 24 Feb 2019 3:57 p.m. PST |
Its a bit nonsensical because civilisations are treated as one when they might cover several dynasties , changes and variations. Does Scythian civilisation really span 800 years as one unity? Do we even know that the Harappans have 800 years of a unitary civilisation. When he gets to later states changes that would be unnoticeable in earlier civilisations ( because we lack the evidence) are enough to cause changes of civilisation. |
Winston Smith | 25 Feb 2019 4:23 p.m. PST |
A "civilization" is defined as a WRG 7th Ed Ancients army list. |
Damion | 25 Feb 2019 6:53 p.m. PST |
None of the Celtic civilisations get a mention. A bit silly given that the average person in Britain is descended from people who belonged to such cultures. Urnfield – 550 years Halstatt – 600 years (though considerable overlap with Urnfield) La Tene – 450 years Golasecca culture – 500 years For those unfamiliar with Golasecca, this was the Celtic civilisation of northern Italy that predated the arrival of the Gauls. It's most famous artifact is probably the Bormio stele which depicts a horn blower and a standard bearer and is about the only source for checkered patterns on shields. Castro culture – 800+ years Famous for its candlestick like torcs and warrior statues with round shields and clothing that looks similar to those on the Bormio stele. Given that the nomad Scythians and early Greek city states are mentioned, then the largest civilisation in ancient Europe really deserves a mention. |
FatherOfAllLogic | 26 Feb 2019 7:57 a.m. PST |
That's the problem with lists, as they are very subjective. Best guitarist, best song, best army, best tank, etc., depends on your criteria which are themselves subjective. Lists are only entertaining, not informative. |
Damion | 27 Feb 2019 1:57 p.m. PST |
It isn't just subjective, they ignored every civilisation north of Rome and Greece while including odd nomad groups from central asia. It's an appallingly ignorant list. |
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