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MiniPigs Supporting Member of TMP09 Feb 2019 10:57 a.m. PST

The rules use 20 sided dice numbered 1-20 but are they truly supposed to be read as 1-20 or rather 1-10 x 2?

When you fire and your unit has a 1-6 hit chance is that 1-6 out of 20 or 1-6 out of 10?

Gone Fishing09 Feb 2019 11:08 a.m. PST

My understanding has always been 1-6 out of 20.

nnascati Supporting Member of TMP09 Feb 2019 11:38 a.m. PST

Yes, out of 20.

VCarter Supporting Member of TMP09 Feb 2019 5:51 p.m. PST

Agreed.

raylev309 Feb 2019 10:20 p.m. PST

Out of 20

Winston Smith Supporting Member of TMP10 Feb 2019 6:10 p.m. PST

Why would the rules specify D20 when D10s are to be used?
Nowhere in TSATF does it mention D10s.

coopman11 Feb 2019 6:31 a.m. PST

Do they even make D20s with the nos. 1-10 on them twice? Seems odd that they would.

Bismarck11 Feb 2019 7:03 a.m. PST

coopman,

I am showing my age, but I remember the early d20s with 1-10 numbered twice and we had to color in two colors to make the distinction between 1-10 and 11-20. I think I may still have a few of these buried somewhere in the house.

Anyone else remember these?

Apologies Minipigs, if I stole your thread.

Ed Mohrmann Supporting Member of TMP11 Feb 2019 7:08 a.m. PST

Bismarck I too have a few D10's which were converted
to D20 via the "paint the two 1-10 sequences different
colors" process.

Loooong time ago, Sam…

MiniPigs Supporting Member of TMP11 Feb 2019 7:49 a.m. PST

No problem, take the thread wherever. I asked because the rules are old and I wasnt sure if they meant the original d20 which were mostly 0-9 x 2 back then and that maybe a recent errata had misunderstood/assumed a d20 1-20.

Additionally, none of the TSATF firing charts hit factors really seems to go above 1-7 or 1-8; I think if there had been a 1-12 hit probability it would've clarified it all up in the rules.

Winston Smith Supporting Member of TMP11 Feb 2019 1:54 p.m. PST

You want a 1-12 hit probability on a D20?
I think that even 1-8 or 1-7 are way too high.

coopman11 Feb 2019 6:20 p.m. PST

I think that Larry Brom didn't want a unit to fire and obliterate its target. That would not be much fun.

Ed Mohrmann Supporting Member of TMP12 Feb 2019 10:15 a.m. PST

Definitely, coopman. When what became 'Before I was a
Marshal…' (Larry's Nap rules) was in development
he absolutely rained all over me when I suggested
that the British had slightly superior musketry…

SgtGuinness13 Feb 2019 5:55 a.m. PST

MiniPigs, as stated the D20's are actually 1-20 with a to hit ranging from as low as a 1 needed up to a 7, depending on target class (formation and cover) or troop quality / nationality.

Yes, I have seen and own old D20's that are labeled 1-10 twice.

Cheers,
JB

coolyork Supporting Member of TMP13 Feb 2019 9:32 a.m. PST

What SgtGuinness said !

MiniPigs Supporting Member of TMP13 Feb 2019 11:13 a.m. PST

Thanks everyone.

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