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AC196330 Jan 2019 11:43 a.m. PST

Any experts know the relationship between the Royal Navy paints 507C and G45. Are they the same colour/shade.



dragon6 Supporting Member of TMP30 Jan 2019 1:11 p.m. PST

Not an expert but Mal Wright, British and Commonwealth Warship Camouflage: Destroyers, colour plate shows 507c as light grey and G45 as light olive.

Snyder and Short show 507C as light grey, G45 looks light olive

AC196331 Jan 2019 7:40 a.m. PST

Yes that is why I am confused. I can find some paint sets, eqivilants charts and mixing guides that suggest they are different colours.

But I have seen others sources such as admiralty documents and respected paint sets such as soverign/WEM/colourcoats that suggest they are one an the same – i.e. colourcoats NARN22 is listed as both 507C and G45.


Thanks :)

dragon6 Supporting Member of TMP31 Jan 2019 10:37 a.m. PST

Your link

This shade always had a documented Light Reflectance Value of 45% and was used from 1936 until well after WW2. It was renamed G45 in April 1943
says they are the same colour.
Not an expert, as I said, but I would want at least another data point on this.

AC196331 Jan 2019 2:46 p.m. PST

There is this too, which includes some extracts from admiralty documents that say 507C and G45 are equivalents. It also shows the recipies for the two and they are pretty similar. But it also talks about the possibility of another shade of G45 that had a warmish yellow/beige hue.

PDF link

dragon6 Supporting Member of TMP31 Jan 2019 5:13 p.m. PST

Yeah, I spent some time looking around. RN paint seems complex and, sometimes, just plain confusing. If 507B, date 1915, is the same as ww2 507A minus some enamel for gloss, oh and G10 is also the same.

My head hurts

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