jfishm1981 | 30 Jan 2019 10:52 a.m. PST |
Hey all, I've been pondering doing a project on the 1993 Battle of Mogadishu. It seems there are a lot of great ranges out there covering the conflict, but I'm wondering- would it be strange to use my more modern American troops that would have been fighting in the early to mid 2000s in Iraq and Afghanistan to represent the Rangers? The modern period is not my forte exactly, so I'm not sure how different the camo patterns and uniforms are from the 2000s to the 90s. I do have some Delta guys in that distinctive black gear that seems to fit just fine. Curious to hear your thoughts! J |
nnascati | 30 Jan 2019 11:10 a.m. PST |
In reality, the look would be totally different. But unless you are gaming with "button counters", I say use whatever you have. One idea, you could play the scenarios, and simply not identify the setting as Mogadishu. |
Irish Marine | 30 Jan 2019 11:14 a.m. PST |
I was there in 1994 so if you have questions let me know. What scale are you doing it in? In 28mm MO-FO sold through Gripping Beast are nice and fit the period well; link Old Devil Dog Design miniatures fit as well but you'll play merry hell trying to find them. 20mm has a lot to offer enough that I'm not going to try and list them. |
dwight shrute | 30 Jan 2019 12:23 p.m. PST |
US Rangers in 93 are wearing the distinct RBA in woodland camou ( rianger body armour ) . You won't need a massive amount of them , its worth investing in some new figures . Rangers are using M16a2's . RBA:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ranger_Body_Armor The main uniform was 3 colour BDU ; link Other US forces are still wearing 91 gulf war chocolate chip camou . |
Stryderg | 30 Jan 2019 12:27 p.m. PST |
That's why I play sci-fi. The camo schemes don't matter, the fact that my minis have Laser Rifles and drive hoover craft instead of sporting M-16's and HMMWV doesn't matter, but the scenario is the same. Either way, I would roll dice with you. |
Joe Legan | 30 Jan 2019 7:31 p.m. PST |
Dont know your scale but 15mm is all about head gear. If they have the modern helmet you will be fine! As others have said mix of uniforms so your folks will fit right in. Enjoy! Joe |
Lion in the Stars | 31 Jan 2019 12:25 a.m. PST |
Agree with Joe Legan: at 15mm it's really all about the helmets. At 20mm, though, body armor style really starts to matter, it is rather important at 28mm. |
jfishm1981 | 31 Jan 2019 6:52 a.m. PST |
Lion in the Stars: (or anyone for that matter) How different is the body armor now compared with back then? Is it really noticeable on the table top? J |
Patrick Sexton | 31 Jan 2019 2:43 p.m. PST |
'How different is the body armor now compared with back then? Is it really noticeable on the table top?' Very much so. Helmet, armor, etc. are very different. |
nnascati | 31 Jan 2019 4:51 p.m. PST |
J, One last bit of input personally, I much prefer the look of the 1990s US troops to the modern. Maybe a head switch would do the trick? |
Lion in the Stars | 31 Jan 2019 5:24 p.m. PST |
When you get to ~2009 troops (I'm not entirely sure when that armor started getting used), the armor actually has plate shoulder guards and usually a big, in-the-way groin guard-plate. There was also a hard fore-arm tube, but those sucked enough that most people refused to wear them even under orders. Helmets changed a bit, the US Fritz helmet got some of the back-of-the-neck protection removed so that someone wearing a back plate could see. And special ops now use a completely different helmet type, sarcastically referred to as a 'bicycle helmet' because of how trimmed-down it is. |
Buckeye AKA Darryl | 01 Feb 2019 5:28 p.m. PST |
How about a range in 15mm designed specifically for the Mog? link link |
Joe Legan | 02 Feb 2019 7:21 p.m. PST |
Gentlemen If the original poster already has us figures and wants to us them in Somalia who is really going to notice the difference in body armor or back of the helmet enough to say "dont use those figures on the table" If he really gets into it later maybe but to start forget it at |