Paskal | 26 Jan 2019 6:57 a.m. PST |
In the past who knew and loved playing with the "SEBASTOPOL, SEDOWA AND SEDAN" 19th. Century Warfare rules by T.J.Halsall, J.G.Kew & A.M.Roth,? |
JimDuncanUK | 26 Jan 2019 7:54 a.m. PST |
Never heard of them but I've only been in the hobby for around 50 years. |
Skeets | 26 Jan 2019 8:43 a.m. PST |
I think I have a copy somewhere in the game room. |
23rdFusilier | 26 Jan 2019 9:59 a.m. PST |
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Winston Smith | 26 Jan 2019 10:19 a.m. PST |
I heard of them, way back in the previous century. |
Ed Mohrmann | 27 Jan 2019 7:35 a.m. PST |
There are several sets of rules (ACW, Medieval, Napoleonic, etc) apparently authored by these folks. While I don't know for certain, they seem to have published in the UK in the mid/early 1970's through the early 1980's. At least one of their sets was published by Newbury (rules for the Medieval period 500 – 1500 AD, published in 1983). If interested, you can still find their rules on Amazon an (infrequently) on E-bay. |
Paskal | 28 Jan 2019 12:16 a.m. PST |
@JimDuncanUK 50 years in the hobby only? This is little… We can do better! I played with Louis XIII … This rule served at national wargaming competitions in the UK in the 80s, and you did not hear about it ??? So no one among you has played with the "SEBASTOPOL, SEDOWA AND SEDAN" 19th. Century Warfare rules ? It's a super sophisticated rule! |
ChrisBBB2 | 28 Jan 2019 5:43 a.m. PST |
Knew them, yes; loved them, no. I owned a copy but I'm not sure I ever used the rules for a game – certainly not more than once. Very factor-heavy, as I recall, of the "+1 for resting muskets on a wall" variety. Why do you ask? Chris Bloody Big BATTLES! link bloodybigbattles.blogspot.com |
Paskal | 28 Jan 2019 12:05 p.m. PST |
Just to talk about something I like … |
JimDuncanUK | 28 Jan 2019 2:04 p.m. PST |
@Paskal 50 years in the hobby is fairly normal these days and hopefully some of us will get a few more. How many years do you have? I can't say I have come across Louis XIII before, does he wargame? Was he at Sebastopol, Sedowa or the Sedan? I remember the nationals in the 80's, I went to many of them. How many did you go to? Apart from one occasion at the nationals I never took part in any of the national competitions. There is so much more to the hobby than playing equalised armies on an equalised tabletop. I prefer to display the hobby to others, in fact I have a trophy from the Nationals for doing just that. Perhaps you could be useful to your fellow gamers and supply a review of "SEBASTOPOL, SEDOWA AND SEDAN" 19th. Century Warfare rules so that we can agree or otherwise with your assessment of 'super sophistication'. |
Paskal | 29 Jan 2019 12:36 p.m. PST |
@JimDuncanUK I do not want to provide a critique of "SEBASTOPOL, SEDOWA AND SEDAN" of the 19th. Century Warfare rules for you to accept or not an evaluation… But because I like these rules, I only want to talk about them with those who knew and loved them …, you wrote above "I've never heard of it", so you're not not concerned … Each his tastes, nevertheless it was and it is always a sacred good rule … But what makes me laugh is that many find it too tedious. |
JimDuncanUK | 29 Jan 2019 1:12 p.m. PST |
Well, good luck with that. Given the paucity of positive replies so far you may little to hear about them. |
Basha Felika | 29 Jan 2019 1:48 p.m. PST |
Like the Liberal party of the same era, I suspect that the SS&S fan club could meet in a phone box, even in their heyday :-) I knew them, played them, moved on and never looked back, but (as mentioned in a parallel thread started by Paskal), I owe a debt of gratitude to the authors for getting me involved in this great hobby, a mere 42 years ago. |
Paskal | 30 Jan 2019 12:49 a.m. PST |
I have not found something that suits me so much ..? |
Basha Felika | 30 Jan 2019 3:30 p.m. PST |
Sorry to say, I think you may be the only living member of that fan club |
Paskal | 31 Jan 2019 12:54 a.m. PST |
Given the mass of player that had at one time, it's odd that there are none who are members of TMP … |
deephorse | 31 Jan 2019 6:11 a.m. PST |
It may surprise you to learn that there are large numbers of wargamers that have never heard of TMP. At the last club I belonged to only two people knew of TMP and I was one of them. |
Basha Felika | 01 Feb 2019 4:36 a.m. PST |
That's certainly my experience as well, Deephorse. TMP seems to be promoted as a great resource for Wargames-related stuff mainly by word of mouth or chance appearances on google searches for specific topics . A high proportion of my current club members have never heard of TMP, and it's interesting that the least aware are the SF/Fantasy crowd, who are usually the younger and more internet-savvy ones, compared to us greying historical gamers. And, of course, there are those who know TMP exists, used to frequent it but have stopped doing so in recent years for all sorts of different reasons. |
Paskal | 01 Feb 2019 10:00 a.m. PST |
Nothing surprises me, since almost nobody has heard of "SEBASTOPOL, SEDOWA AND SEDAN" 19th. Century Warfare rules by T.J.Halsall, J.G.Kew & A.M.Roth … |
Basha Felika | 01 Feb 2019 12:55 p.m. PST |
Paskal, you should come to the UK, visit the Newbury Wargames Show (‘Colours') and meet Dr. Halsall – he's still a regular there – I'm sure he'd autograph your rules for you. |
Paskal | 02 Feb 2019 12:37 a.m. PST |
The day I go in UK (LOL), I have so many correspondents to see, that I do not leave before long (LOL) … |
Basha Felika | 02 Feb 2019 1:50 p.m. PST |
Just make sure your visit is before 28th March: after that, maybe we don't let you in….or out!! :-) |
Paskal | 04 Feb 2019 12:59 a.m. PST |
No no,i's you ,if you visit the Newbury Wargames Show ('Colors') and meetthe Dr. Halsall, please ask him to contact me on TMP, thank you. |