Shakespear | 04 Jan 2019 9:17 a.m. PST |
Whats popular? Does FoG still do one? |
Steamingdave2 | 04 Jan 2019 10:15 a.m. PST |
Baroque, Pike and Shot (for later part), Sword and Spear (for earlier period), Pikeman's Lament (for skirmish), Twilight of Divine Right (for later period, big battles) Definitely not FoGR |
Dexter Ward | 04 Jan 2019 10:19 a.m. PST |
Fog:Renaissance is a good set of rules (not the fastest) For King & Parliament is good, but only really covers English Civil War (it's the Pike & Shot version of To the Strongest) |
Timmo uk | 04 Jan 2019 11:14 a.m. PST |
I've ordered Twilight of Divine Right – still waiting for it to arrive. I'll probably post some thoughts on it. WRG Gush is an old school classic. I found it a bit mathematical to play and a bit slow but it always seemed to give historically plausible results. It covers the entire Renaissance period and all sorts of troop types and armies. There is a set of army lists available as a separate volume. Both rules and army lists are usually available second hand via eBay for a few quid each. Tercio is a similar but slightly more complex set. I tried it back in the day but preferred WRG. |
mghFond | 04 Jan 2019 11:22 a.m. PST |
Pike and Shotte if you are OK with the Black Powder system. I'm using it right now for my Great Italian Wars games with modifications that I added. |
Rottcodd | 04 Jan 2019 11:28 a.m. PST |
For late 15th, very early 16th century, I think To the Strongest is fine. And it is my favorite rule-set now, large battles played out in a few hours. |
CFeicht | 04 Jan 2019 1:01 p.m. PST |
Bear Yourselves Valiantly works great for the early and middle Renaissance periods. |
Winston Smith | 04 Jan 2019 2:16 p.m. PST |
When I had the armies, I used WRG Gush, 2nd edition. Forget "popular" if you're supplying everything. It's a good solid set that works. |
DOUGKL | 04 Jan 2019 3:05 p.m. PST |
Ditto Timmo uk and Winston Smith. We've been using WRG Gush since the 80's. I've played other systems at cons and have had a good time. That said I have not found anything that I felt was superior enough to make me put down my money for it. I also do not like the trend of what I call modular rules, where you have a base rule book and then have to buy supplements to add other armies. |
Midlander65 | 04 Jan 2019 3:44 p.m. PST |
Mortem et Gloriam covers through to the earlier part of the Italian Wars and there is a dedicated Renaissance version due later this year for through the Pike and Shot period. I'm playing a turn of the 16th Century game with MeG tomorrow. |
oldnorthstate | 04 Jan 2019 5:03 p.m. PST |
Carnage and Glory Computer Moderated rules. |
Tony S | 04 Jan 2019 5:15 p.m. PST |
DBA 3 covers up the Italian Wars now. DBR is still in print, in fact it comes as an omnibus with all the army lists included in one perfect bound volume. (Although for reasons beyond my ken, they did NOT fix the errors and typos in the digitally printed book for the army lists). We really like DBA. We play DBR, as we liked it better than the Gush rules, but although it is still enjoyed by the club, somehow something sometimes just doesn't feel "right". Perhaps we should resurrect the Gush set and try it once more! (As an aside,a couple of my friends are planning on doing some new armies using the old WRG Horse & Musket rules this year, so there might be old school trend developing at the club)! A couple of us played For King and Parliament, and quite enjoyed that. Just ECW as others have mentioned. I also got Tercios, and would like to try it out someday. It's only for TYW, although there is a supplement that extends it east and into the ECW. Furioso link is other set from Alternative Armies, specifically for Italian Wars. Seems quite interesting, but the one time I was going to play it, things fell through and never managed to reschedule. |
Rudysnelson | 04 Jan 2019 6:41 p.m. PST |
Fields of Glory-REN, was the first one that came to mind. Next was Pike and Shotte which may be a little too late. |
khanscom | 04 Jan 2019 8:30 p.m. PST |
I still like DBR-- haven't found a good reason to change. |
Charge The Guns | 05 Jan 2019 5:02 a.m. PST |
I heartily recommend Warlord Games' Pike and Shotte. The ‘Black Powder' mechanics keep the game moving along at a good pace, shooting and melee are quick and simple, and the special rules with troop type factors allow you to tailor the historical interactions as you see fit. I have many fond memories of WRG 2nd ed. by Gush. Not sure my regular opponents, or I, could cope now with simultaneous movement now. Morale tests were also very slow. Would perhaps be fun to try it again. |
corona66 | 05 Jan 2019 6:22 a.m. PST |
DBR is still a first class rule set for the period, but I am interested in the much promised L'Art de la Guerre Renaissance supplement. |
Shakespear | 05 Jan 2019 9:20 a.m. PST |
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Tony S | 05 Jan 2019 2:16 p.m. PST |
The DBR compendium is available from Lulu. link |
10mm Wargaming | 07 Jan 2019 4:56 a.m. PST |
I would recommend Pike & Shotte Rules. Hope it helps. As always, comments are appreciated. Take care Andy |
French Wargame Holidays | 09 Jan 2019 4:27 p.m. PST |
Baroque, for me cheers Matt Herce salon de Guerre Mayenne France |
von Schwartz | 14 Jan 2019 8:19 p.m. PST |
Timmo, you mentioned Tercio rules, do you know where I can find them? Keep in mind I am in the colonies. |
Marcus Brutus | 14 Jan 2019 9:13 p.m. PST |
I saw a copy of the old Tercio rules listed on Boardgame Geek. |