"Is German and British all there is to ww1 gaming?" Topic

No.

Serious question, or is there some motive behind this? Maybe a British and German hater.

The clue is in the name 'World' war.

Try reading some history books.

No need even to go to the whole trouble of reading a book. watch a movie called Gallipoli will see Turkish and Austrialian. Look at a on line shop the sells WW1 stuff. Even Battlefront have French and Americans. Look at Pendraken's WW1 you will lots of countries armies, and theatres other than western front.

I fight Austrians v Italians in 28mm using Scarab, Brigade and Renegade figures. A certain Erwin Rommel learnt a lot fighting on the Italian front.

What am odd question!

I suspect it is the same question as posted on some other forums this morning but with the actual text on TMP lost due to da bug or something.

The OP may repost at some point.

Without piling in I assume that Martin is correct here.

Of course not. The British entered after several other countries on the Allied side.

What I have not seen in the replies above are links to minis from other nations involved in the war.

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I see 8 pages of British minis, 2 pages of French minis, 3 pages of Russian minis, 3 pages of German minis and page of mixed US and Swedish minis.

Based on that incredibly limited taste of the minis available, I would answer the original question as YES: other nations are represented, and NO: British minis are all there are with a smattering of other nations.

A little more detail in the original question may improve the answers.

There are lots of mini's to choice from for doing the east africa campaign. That had Germans,Brits, Boers, Indians, and Local African askaris( on both sides).

I started with Western Front British (and Canadians) and Germans because most of my sources are English language. French are on my radar, as they carried the lion's share of the allied effort on the Western Front.

Eastern Front has not grabbed my imagination, but I can see the lure and the cross over to RCW

East Africa is always popular and offers a lot of color. There are figure ranges in just about every scale for all of these theaters, and even Italy. Don't forget about Gallipoli and Salonika too or the Mid East!

Try 10mm, see Pendraken's site here: pendraken.co.uk/world-war-i

Or for you 28mm guys see: link

You can just anything you could possibly need for any theater, we truly live in the golden age!

I'm not interested in the Western Front at all. My interest lies in the campaigns of AH, Serbia, Montenegro, etc.

Belgians in 10mm from Van Dyck
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Stryderg. That is a list from a company called Great War miniatures, not only their WW1 figures. The Scots Greys didn't wear busbys in 1914 !!!

Why would anyone bother to list figure suggestions when there is no request to do so, no stated scale/size or any other info from the poster ?

GildasFacit:
Well, to my mind, listing minis would have been more helpful than the replies that were given. My opinion only and everyone has a right to disagree.

And I agree with your second point, as seen in the last line of my previous reply.

At least it wasn't the usual rant about how the Americans won WW1…

Apparently BF is doing a new version of their Great War rules, and is even including cavalry this time around. I still cannot believe that a company based in ANZACland didn't start their WW1 game with the Gallipoli Campaign, or better yet started it with the 100th Anniversary in 2014 and played the entire war out over the next 4 years… *facepalm*

Yes, I suspect this is a dig at Battlefront choice of figures to produce. You do get lots of tanks in 1918 of course, and everyone loves tanks.

Saw some French troops available too.

Original Post:
And late war at that?
With so many interesting combatants and units participating besides these two nations. Austria-Hungary, Russia, Serbia, Ottoman Empire, France, Belgium..

Point is while many have no qualms about collecting and getting into all sort of obscure armies(particularly napoleonics) and gaming all sort of obscure skirmishes of earlier periods.

But as time passes do you think other nations will be given more attention among new gamers coming into the hobby?

and additionally:

For such a vast conflict with more ready available information I was just curious of the general theme of interest in just two of the combatants. There are, in my opinion, many more interesting fronts and nations to discover like in other eras of warfare.

Well I hold on to the belief that its due to the narrow presentation in documentaries, literature and movies that gives heavy account/interviews to these two combatants. Brits in particular. I am not tryng to discredit the interest in the western front/UK-German battles, only question what I perceived to be a general lack of interest in other theaters and nations of the war.

And as some have proven, this is not the case for everyone at all.

Certainly not a German or British hater. As some upcoming 28mm early war German Hussars and London Scottish Highlanders are about to prove:) Was curious to see if there could be interest in further additions of say Austrians, Serbs, Russians or any other not typically represented to my impression.

I game a lot of WW1, far more than WW2 actually.

I have French and Germans in 12mm Kallistra for the very first months like Battles of the Frontier.
Then Pendraken 10mm for Eastern front 1914 – Germans, AustroHungarians, and Russians.
And even the Italian front using 18mm using Blue Moon German figs for AHs and French for Italians.

No Brits at all in my collections. Nothing against them whatsoever just not part of my interests in that war.

Well, there are plenty of 28mm figures that are not British or German…

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I'm working on Japanese vs German (1914 China), No one makes figures for this, but that's part of the fun.

, not my best paint job but fun to make.

"I'm working on Japanese vs German (1914 China), No one makes figures for this, but that's part of the fun."

What about RJW figures for the Japanese and German colonial infantry (Von Lettow-Vorbeck types?) for the Germans?

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Thanks for the suggestion but there are some issues. The campaign took place Sept to Nov. 1914, the German forces went into Winter uniforms as of late Sept. All the colonial types available are in Summer uniforms and most wear the slouch hat. The slouch hat was no longer being worn in China.. That said, the majority of my Germans are Copplestone's German Marines who are close to the Summer uniform. The Japanese changed the uniform in 1911 infantry are from their Chinese War Lord range. I'm still looking for some for figure for the Japanese's heavy weapons and command. Would like to use some Tsuba figures but having an issue getting the this side of the pond. With a little rework the Japanese can be up uniformed and the German Red Sailors are perfectly uniformed.

The MG crew are from Copplestone's Chinese War Lord range. NCO required a head swop and the gunners need to have their putties made into boots and the caps reworked into Mutzen.

French v. Germans. As a kid one of my first soldier sets was Airfix's French WW1. Plus I like Renaults.

Even the first batch of WW1 troops BF made were Brits, Americans, French, and Germans. All Western Front. Yeah, there's not a lot of difference between Americans and French at 15mm, but there were 4 different armies made.

I keep wanting to buy a bunch of Zombiesmith's Quar, enough for companies per side, base them up for Flames.

@Cerdic. Thank you, I have seen that site before. Its a good one.
I was addressing what I perceive to be a bias towards certain nations. In other words what sell most, what do you see on games/conventions.

Been having a look at Siberia miniatures, but does anyone know how they scale up with other brands?

siberia-miniatures.ru/index.php?cPath=41_39_98

Cheers!

Yes, I think you are right that the Western Front gets the lions share of the attention. But at least there are plenty of options outside of that!

Hi,

Yes, mainly the problem is that many of the alternatives have have aged quite a bit, and are not really up to par quality and scale wise. There have been quite a evolution in detailing and proportion. And some of them are outdated proportion wise even if they are nicely sculpted.

If say some of the leading manufacturers/sculptors had released a range of 1914 Austrians or Serbs I think we would see more of them on gaming tables around than what is currently the case. Its not just the subject or army, but quality attracts. A lot of obscure conflicts that are released these days are well received because of the quality.

My own theatre of interest is Serbia and Galicia, specifically the Austrian role. I have of course read pretty thoroughly on all theatres but I really like the Serb/Austrian battles and think it doesn't get anywhere near the interest it should. I did a scenario book called Summer Harvest for Great War Spearhead that covers the opening moves in Serbia and Galicia. I have a follow on that I am working on for late 14 and part of 15 and will do yet another with the fall of Serbia and more Austrian battles.

I agree that the Austrian Serbian battles deserve more attention. And Galicia provided some pretty epical cavalry engagements. Early war Austrian cavalry would make for quite some sculpts. There should be plenty of interesting gaming opportunities for the Serbian campaign.

Summer of Harvest is noted, Thanks.

Galicia provided some pretty epical cavalry engagements.

Ooooh, got any book recommendations? Cavalry wars without a bajillion machine guns sound interesting!

I'm hoping that the new FoW Great War book will have all the powers in it, including Gallipoli and the Middle East.

Colors are intersting, blue-gray jacket with red trousers.

Ooooh, got any book recommendations? Cavalry wars without a bajillion machine guns sound interesting!
I'm hoping that the new FoW Great War book will have all the powers in it, including Gallipoli and the Middle East.

As for books I know of, I've would recommend:
"A Mad Catastrophe: The Outbreak of World War I and the Collapse of the Habsburg Empire" by Geoffrey Wawro

amazon.com/Mad-Catastrophe-Outbreak-Collapse-Habsburg-ebook/dp/B00GL9TQ2C

Also, to consider is:

"Fall of the Double Eagle: The Battle for Galicia and the Demise of Austria-Hungary" by John R Schindler.

goodreads.com/review/show/1867271025

At the battle of Gnila Lipa(part of the Galicia 1914) there were large contigents of cavalry among both the Austro-Hungarians and the Russians. The battle of Krasnik also featured large amount of cavalry.

Hopefully these other campaigns in the east will be given more attention.

Colors are intersting, blue-gray jacket with red trousers.

Yes, they should add some color to the gaming table.
That said I think the Austrian infantry look quite sharp too in their pike-grey(with a certain blue to it).

Thank you!

In this day and age, there are plenty of figures for the Eastern Front, the Balkans, Middle East etc. When I started out in this hobby non of this existed. If you think otherwise, then you are not paying attention.

@Lion in the Stars: Your welcome and have a nice weekend:)

Salonika Front – everyone who was anyone was there!