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Basha Felika13 Dec 2018 1:24 p.m. PST

Other than LBH and the Rosebud, Fetterman's Massacre etc, which historical actions (other than small scale skirmishes) lend themselves to being replayed on the tabletop?

I've found some in the Yellow Ribbon/CWTB rules but there must be some others?

And if you can point me towards some written-up scenarios, so much the better!

Wackmole913 Dec 2018 1:31 p.m. PST

Battle of Julesburg 1865, Battle of Platte river Bridges 1865, Battle of Summit Springs 1869,and Battle of Beecher Island 1868.

Stephen Miller13 Dec 2018 4:58 p.m. PST

Battle of White Bird Canyon, 1877. Gen. O.O. Howard versus Nez Perce. Also Battle of Bear Paws Mountains, also 1877, Gen. Nelson Miles versus Nez Perce. (This one has 3 troops of 7th Cav, 3 Troops of 2nd Cav and 3 companies of 5th Infantry mounted on captured Indian Ponies versus Joseph's Nez Perce, 30 miles from the safety of the Canadian border.)

Mick O13 Dec 2018 6:12 p.m. PST

The Washita 1868
Soldiers Spring 1868
MacKenzie Raid / Remolina 1873
Powder River march 1876
Slim Buttes Sept 1876
Dull Knife Battle Nov 1876
Battle of Little Muddy May 1877
Bates battle at Snake Mountain 1873
Battle of the Big Hole aug. 1877
Thornburg's Battle against Ute's at Milk River 1879

mwindsorfw13 Dec 2018 8:07 p.m. PST

First Battle of Adobe Walls in 1864.

DinOfBattle213 Dec 2018 8:25 p.m. PST

I ran a Plains War campaign which generated their own battles which was a TON of fun.

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Eric

martin goddard Sponsoring Member of TMP14 Dec 2018 2:02 a.m. PST

WESTERN by Peter Pig is specifically written for such battles. It does include 40+ battles but only gives brief detail . It does give jump off points for internet research though.

link

Basha Felika14 Dec 2018 12:47 p.m. PST

Some great suggestions there, many thanks – time to start reading!

Stephen: reading up on the Nez Perce campaign at the moment: some very different actions from the usual accounts. But how different in appearance would the NP have been or can I use ‘usual' Plains Indians?

DoB2: it was accounts of your campaign that really got me interested in the period several years ago, for which many thanks!

Garryowen Supporting Member of TMP15 Dec 2018 5:58 a.m. PST

Perhaps the two most distinguishing things about the Nez Perce would be the pompadours commonly worn and the number of appaloosa horses.

The Nez Perce are actually usually classified as Plateau rather than Plains Indians. Lots of similarity though. Their greater exposure to white influences and association led to more and earlier use of trade cloth garments.

Not sure it is true, but I have read they were the only western Indians to understand the use of the rear elevating leaf sight on rifles and carbines. It made their long range fire more effective supposedly.

Basha Felika15 Dec 2018 9:54 a.m. PST

Garryowen, thanks, you've confirmed my thoughts , but I don't think I've seen many suitable figures in 28mm, with pompadours and more European clothing.

I'll probably end up using my existing Indian figures, I think

Stephen Miller15 Dec 2018 1:03 p.m. PST

Garryowen is right on about the Nez Perce, including their proper use of rear sights on rifles, at least I've read that same info.

KevinV15 Dec 2018 1:46 p.m. PST

Cienguilla 1854 – 60, 1st Dragoons vs 200, Jicarilla Apaches
Steptoe's Fight 1858 – 164 Dragoons and Infantry vs approx. 1000 Spokanes
Four Lakes 1858 – 600 Infantry, Dragoons and Artillery vs "A large number of Spokanes and Palouses"
Crooked Creek 1859 – 500 2nd Cavalry vs Comanches
Republican Fork 1860 – 419 1st Cavalry vs 600 Kiowa and Comanches

Stephen Miller15 Dec 2018 6:04 p.m. PST

The Steptoe's Fight 1858 was the basis for the 1950's movie Pillars of the Sky staring Jeff Chandler. In that movie the colonel's name was changed to Stedloe.

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