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Tango0103 Dec 2018 12:41 p.m. PST

"The KV-1 heavy tank is one of the most heavily-armoured tanks in the world, with up to 120mm (4.7 inches) of cast steel armour on the turret. Few enemy tanks (or even anti-tank guns) have any chance of penetrating its thick hide…"

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Mark 1 Supporting Member of TMP03 Dec 2018 5:17 p.m. PST

Contrary to my skepticism of the "early" T-34 "company" ( TMP link ), this presentation fully passes "Mr. Picky's Sniff Test"(tm).

It looks like an up-armored 1942 production KV-1 (classified as KV-1C by many German and British sources). That's the right tank for the description of "up to 120mm (4.7 inches) of cast steel armour on the turret." Also, 5 is a workable number for a company (although some versions of the company TOE had 7).

A bit odd of a combination in that the turret is cast, but the hull looks like a welded up-armored hull (rather than a cast up-armored). But hulls and turrets were mixed from time-to-time (sometimes frequently). So I don't object.

However, I do very much object to the KV-1s as it is presented. A KV-1s did indeed have an updated turret, which they show / provide. Looks good. Fine. But … it also had an updated hull! And this is not provided.

The visual identifiers of a KV-1s are the rounded turret with two hatches on top, offset right and left from the centerline, with a comander's cupola on the rear-most hatch. All find and good.

It also had a refined hull shape, with a noticeable downward slope on the engine deck. GONG! Thank you for playing, next contestant please…

-Mark
(aka: Mk 1)

William Ulsterman03 Dec 2018 6:43 p.m. PST

Dude – there's nothing wrong with it – the exploded diagram on the box show alternate rear hull tops, one of which will be (presumably) for the sloped rear hull of the KV1s.

Lion in the Stars03 Dec 2018 7:53 p.m. PST

As I said in the T34 thread, the minimum size for a Soviet tank company is 5 tanks in Flames of War.

Tango0104 Dec 2018 11:28 a.m. PST

Glad you like it my friend!. (smile)


Amicalement
Armand

Mark 1 Supporting Member of TMP04 Dec 2018 1:14 p.m. PST

… there's nothing wrong with it – the exploded diagram on the box show alternate rear hull tops, one of which will be (presumably) for the sloped rear hull of the KV1s.

Ooooh, right you are! I was looking only at the builds shown on the link, not at the parts on the sprue.

The KV-1s build photos are only left and right front-quarter views. From that angle it is not clear if the engine deck does or does not slope. But it is clear that the glacis has a re-enforcing plate (ekranami). As this plate should not be present on a KV-1s, but is fully appropriate (and visible) on the KV-1 in the photos above, I assumed they were just putting a different turret on the same hull.

I do indeed see the alternate rear engine deck. And it may well be installed on the KV-1s model. And the re-enforcing plate for the glacis is also an additional part on the sprue, which does not need to be added. So it may indeed be possible to assemble a pretty reasonable KV-1s from the parts … presumably, as one might say.

My objection is withdrawn.

-Mark
(aka: Mk 1)

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