Jefthro3 | 26 Nov 2018 5:14 a.m. PST |
Any one using Sturmtigers in Spearhead rules ? And if so what stats do you use . I,m wondering about range and fire factor . Thanks Jim |
Dexter Ward | 26 Nov 2018 9:21 a.m. PST |
Spearhead has each vehicle representing a platoon. Was there ever a platoon of sturmtigers? Maybe it should just be a modifier to an armoured unit allowing it to attack BUAs with extra effect. |
shirleys painting | 26 Nov 2018 9:29 a.m. PST |
Well, there were 18 SturmTigers made, and they operated in Platoons of 3 vehicles. At least when they went to Poland… |
Virtualscratchbuilder | 26 Nov 2018 9:29 a.m. PST |
My understanding is that three Panzer Sturmmörser Kompanien (PzStuMrKp)companies each operated two two-vehicle platoons, two companies of which were in the Ardennes Offensive order of battle. |
shirleys painting | 26 Nov 2018 10:47 a.m. PST |
3 companies of 6, 2 platoons of 3. At least when they went to Poland. That is from Fest in the book Sonder Panzer. |
Lee494 | 26 Nov 2018 6:01 p.m. PST |
It always amazes me how gamers always want to use tanks that had a production run you could count on your fingers and toes and that were used in perhaps two battles if they were lucky. Unbelievable! Cheers! |
repaint | 26 Nov 2018 6:55 p.m. PST |
It always amazes me how gamers always want to use tanks that had a production run you could count on your fingers and toes and that were used in perhaps two battles if they were lucky. Unbelievable! Cheers! Actually, there is some fun playing with the crappy PzIIIs and other obsolete Marders. But, yes, why not. Sturmtigers for the laugh exactly why I own a Maus in 28mm. ;) |
Martin Rapier | 27 Nov 2018 12:29 a.m. PST |
Who hasn't got at least one Sturmtiger? As for SH stats, Tiger armour, big HE fire factor, very short range (6 inches is tempting). It is more like an AVRE than a proper assault gun. |
Jefthro3 | 27 Nov 2018 2:55 a.m. PST |
Hi repaint I try to run a lot of "realistic " games with lots of pz 3s T26 s etc in 1/285th scale 15mm 10mm and 20mm since 1978 . I happen to have two nicely painted Sturmtiger tigers in 1/285th scale that I would like to use in a Spearhead game which I got as part of a GHQ job lot. I could make up my own rules but it's good to see what other Wargamers are doing. I don't play"competition " games so I'm not using the obscure tanks to gain an advantage if any thing I tend to run / umpire the games for our small group. My main interest is Ancient and Medieval so look to the community for help with world war 2 rules. |
langobard | 27 Nov 2018 3:48 a.m. PST |
@Martin Rapier, I confess, I don't have a Sturmtiger! I've got close to 30 PzVI's in 15mm, but they don't count as about 1,200 were made.(And no, I don't game with them, I just like painting them up. I blame Airfix…) My real problem is that because of Girls und Panzer, I now want the GHQ Morser Karl. But no Sturmtigers… :) |
Jefthro3 | 27 Nov 2018 3:50 a.m. PST |
Sorry repaint I think I addressed my previous comment to the wrong member must sort my bicfocals . |
Griefbringer | 27 Nov 2018 11:40 p.m. PST |
As for SH stats, Tiger armour, big HE fire factor, very short range (6 inches is tempting). It is more like an AVRE than a proper assault gun. How about starting with the Jagdtiger profile, reducing the range and anti-tank capability, and increasing anti-infantry capability. Looking at the stats for various weapons, the highest anti-infantry rating that I could find was 9 (for US 8" howitzers). Considering that infantry usually has DEF 5, this weapon is capable of eliminating infantry stands in the open with a roll of 2+ on D6. So if you give Sturmtiger AI 10, it will be be able to eliminate infantry in light cover with 2+ and infantry in fortified positions at 3+. If you give it AI 11, it will be able to take out infantry even in fortified positions at 2+. Anything more is an overkill. However, when rating the weapon one should also take into consideration the rate of fire and maybe also ammo capacity (if limited). As for AT performance, I presume that getting hit with one of those rounds would be rather uncomfortable for a tank crew (and a near miss could also be nasty), but the low rate of fire, low velocity and limited traverse should restrict the performance a bit. |
Jefthro3 | 28 Nov 2018 12:52 p.m. PST |
Thanks Grief Bringer That's very helpful. I don't think I would let it shoot every turn and I guess it would be almost impossible to hit a tank stand by direct fire but could possibly suppress / destroy with indirect fire but they wouldn't be very accurate. |
Mobius | 29 Nov 2018 7:24 p.m. PST |
Take the Sturmtigers from them and give them 12.8cm selbstahrlafette L/61s. |
Jefthro3 | 05 Jun 2019 4:42 p.m. PST |
Thanks everyone. Sorted the issue, I don't play Spearhead rules if I want to involve my Sturmtigers. They don't get on the table very often. |