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20 Nov 2018 5:40 a.m. PST
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Tango0119 Nov 2018 9:38 p.m. PST

…. Modern Combat

"Earlier this year, soldiers with the Army's 101st Airborne Division were the first to receive the services' new high-tech 9mm pistol engineered to give dismounted infantry a vastly increased ability to fight and close with an enemy in caves, tunnels, crawl spaces, houses and other close quarter combat scenarios.

Service weapons developers and soldiers say the new M17 and M18 pistol, designed as a next-generation handgun to follow the Army's current M9 Beretta, is expected to substantially change combat tactics, techniques and strategies for dismounted soldiers on-the-move…."
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Thresher0119 Nov 2018 10:14 p.m. PST

Man, talk about hyperbole………..

You'd expect that from the manufacturer, but the US Army?

The 9mm is still an anemic round.

Pan Marek20 Nov 2018 7:50 a.m. PST

Its all about justifying the fleecing of the taxpayer.
The quotes in the article are so over the top that they are actually silly.

darthfozzywig20 Nov 2018 9:09 a.m. PST

If we're relying on a new sidearm to "change modern warfare" in our favor, we're boned.

Patrick R20 Nov 2018 9:43 a.m. PST

The old guns were worn to the bone, they looked to buy the latest generation, which being polymer are lighter to carry and have a mechanism you can easily swap out for another.

It's not going to be a revolution unless you point the gun at something, pull the trigger and next thing is an atomic cloud or the target disintegrates or it spreads universal peace or whatever, it's just a pistol.

Tango0120 Nov 2018 11:59 a.m. PST

Agree!.

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BrianW20 Nov 2018 8:06 p.m. PST

"You can close with the enemy in close quarter combat and engage the enemy with one hand."

Leaving the other hand free to,. . . hold your chainsword I guess? Perhaps the answer is that the US Army has adopted 40K tactics now.

UshCha20 Nov 2018 8:10 p.m. PST

Not sure how this works, surely with body armour you would need an AP round so you could shoot anywhere and do the other guy some harm. Improved accuracy, it's going to be poor if you shoot Left handed and are a Righty, not sure small improvements in the bore accuracy are really going to make much difference. Is the army going to add even more training for Rightys shooting left handed (or vice versa for lefties).
let's face it the US is worrying about the extra training if they need to go back to a 7.62 not the now discredited 5.56 round. Not going to change my rules for this just yet.

Lion in the Stars21 Nov 2018 3:01 p.m. PST

What's more important is that it's now possible to adjust the grips to fit different trooper's hands better.

One of my friends can't shoot my CZ75 Compact worth a dang because the grip is too big, but my 1911 is fine. I don't even feel the difference between them.

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