"Field artillery of the Army of Portugal, 1810-12" Topic

Two questions: does anyone know the names and ranks of the army level artillery commanders in the French Army of Portugal during Massena's and Marmont's respective terms of command?

Also, does anyone know where a comprehensive listing of that army's artillery assets at any point in the 1810-12 timeframe might be found?

Apologies for the preceding posts- this place is buggier than a flophouse blanket.

You should be able to find that info at the Nafziger files.

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Both Oman and Pelet are two references which may be helpful. For the Army of Portugal when Massena commanded, both Generals Eble and Ruty were assigned to that army, and I'm looking to see who was the artillery chief of the army itself.

Taking a look at Six's dictionary would also be helpful. I'll get back to you when I find something definitive.

According to Georges Six' dictionary, Eble was the artillery commander of the Army of Portugal under Massena.

A good place to start looking for the artillery assets of the French armies in Spain is Oman. You might also want to take a look at Nick Lipscombe's Atlas of the Peninsular War.

Thanks- that's very helpful.

John Gill put an order of battle together for Fuentes de Onoro. It doesn't answer the French artillery commanders, but he does give the numbers and types of French artillery present at that battle.

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From Nafziger (811ASAA)

French Army of Portugal
1 January 1811
Commanding Général: Maréchal A. Massena
Chief of Staff: Général Friron
Quartermaster Gen.: J.F. Lambert
Artillery Commander: Général Elbe
Engineer Commander: Général Lazowski
II Corps: Général de division Reynier
1st Division: Général de division Merle
Brigade: Général de brigade Sarrut
1/,2/,3/,4/2nd Légère Regiment (52/1,670)
1/,2/,3/,4/36th Line Regiment (54/1,226)
Brigade: Général de brigade Graindorge
1/,2/,3/,4/4th Légère Regiment (48/1,318)
Artillery:
19/3rd Foot Artillery (2/6/6/52)*
7/3rd Horse Artillery (2/6/4/40)
Total 2-8pdrs, 4-4pdrs, & 2 6" howitzers
1/2nd (bis) Train Battalion (1/4/8/51)
3/2nd (bis) Train Battalion (0/1/3/16)
4/2nd (bis) Train Battalion (1/3/10/51)
2nd Division: Général de division Heudelet de Bierre
Brigade: Général de brigade Foy
1/,2/,3/17th Légère Regiment (48/998)
1/,2/,3/,4/70th Line Regiment (40/1,422)
Brigade: Général de brigade Arnauld
1/,2/,3/,4/31st Légère Regiment (44/1,641)
1/,2/,3/,4/47th Line Regiment (64/1,461)
Artillery:
15/3rd Foot Artillery (2/6/5/34)
6/3rd Horse Artillery (2/5/6/49)
Total 2-8pdrs, 4-4pdrs, & 2 6" howitzers
3/5th (bis) Train Battalion (1/4/8/101)
3/6th (bis) Train Battalion (0/1/2/34)
Light Cavalry Division: Général de brigade P. Soult
Brigade: Général de brigade P. Soult (92/1,048)
1/,2/1st Hussar Regiment
1/,2/,4/22nd Chasseur à Cheval Regiment
1/, 2/, 3/, 4/Hanoverian Chasseur à Cheval Regiment
1/,2/8th Dragoon Regiment
3/2nd Horse Artillery (2/4/6/44)(3-8pdrs & 1 6" how)
4/10th Principal Train Battalion (1/4/9/67)
Corps Artillery: Colonel Fontenay (33/1,251)
(includes artillery listed above)
1/3rd Foot Artillery (1/1/1/10)
10/3rd Foot Artillery (1/5/4/37)
19/3rd Foot Artillery (0/6/6/53)
Total 1-8pdr, 4-3pdr mountain, 1 2 6" howitzer
Det/9th Artillery Artisan Company (0/1/1/7)
Det/4th Armorer Company (0/0/1/8)
Staff/2nd (bis) Train Battalion (4/1/0/0)
5/2nd (bis) Train Battalion (1/4/10/43)2
Staff/6th (bis) Train Battalion (2/0/0/0)
1/6th (bis) Train Battalion (1/4/9/66)
3/6th (bis) Train Battalion (1/1/3/57)
Staff/11th Principal Train Battalion (2/3/0/0)
1/11th Principal Train Battalion (1/3/8/37)
5/11th Principal Train Battalion (0/3/3/23)
6/11th Principal Train Battalion (1/4/9/34)
Det/12th Principal Train Battalion (1/3/4/51)
VI Corps: Maréchal Ney
1st Division: Général de division Marchand
Brigade: Général de brigade Maucune
1/,2/6th Légère Regiment (29/1,008)
1/,2/,3/69th Line Regiment (47/1,198)
Brigade: Général de brigade Marcognet
1/,2/,3/39th Line Regiment (54/1,249)
1/,2/,3/76th Line Regiment (52/1,350)
Artillery:
10/1st Foot Artillery (1/1/1/8)
14/1st Foot Artillery (3/6/6/52)
Total 4-8pdrs, 2-4pdrs, & 1 6" howitzer
4th Artillery Artisan Company (0/0/0/3)
1/5th Principal Train Battalion (1/4/8/60)
5/5th Principal Train Battalion (0/0/1/10)
6/5th Principal Train Battalion (0/3/6/39)
1/10th Principal Train Battalion (0/0/1/8)
2nd Division: Général de division Mermet
Brigade: Général de brigade Bardet de Maison-Rouge
1/,2/25th Légère Regiment (39/1,363)
1/,2/,3/27th Line Regiment (59/1,550)
Brigade: Général de brigade Delabassee
1/,2/,3/50th Line Regiment (54/1,551)
1/,2/,3/59th Line Regiment (60/1,556)
Artillery:
13/1st Foot Artillery (2/5/6/60)
Total 3-8pdrs, 2-4pdrs, & 2 6" howitzers
4th Artillery Artisan Company (0/0/0/3)
2/5th Principal Train Battalion (1/4/9/59)
5/5th Principal Train Battalion (1/4/8/63)
6/5th Principal Train Battalion (0/0/1/9)
1/10th Principal Train Battalion (0/1/1/6)
3rd Division: Général de division Loison
Brigade: Général de brigade Simon
1/Legion du Midi (17/363)
1/,2/Hanoverian Legion (19/6l1)
5/,6/,7/26th Line Regiment (46/989)
Brigade: Général de brigade Ferey
2/32nd Légère Regiment (14/243)
4/,5/,6/66th Line Regiment (42/1,353)
4/,6/82nd Line Regiment (25/733)
Artillery:
10/1st Foot Artillery (1/3/1/25)
8/3rd Foot Artillery (2/6/6/41)
Total 3-8pdrs, 1-4pdr, & 2 6" howitzers
4th Artillery Artisan Company (0/0/0/2)
9th Artillery Artisan Company (0/0/0/1)3
6/10th Principal Train Battalion (0/1/4/20)
4/6th (bis) Train Battalion (0/1/4/20)
Light Cavalry Brigade: Général de brigade Lamotte (48/604)
1/,2/,3/3rd Hussar Regiment
1/,2/,3/15th Chasseur à Cheval Regiment
Artillery
5/2nd Horse Artillery (2/6/6/53)
Total 2-8pdrs, 1-4pdr, & 1 6" howitzers
4/10th Principal Train Battalion (1/4/8/48)
5/10th Principal Train Battalion (0/1/0/10)
Artillery Reerve: Général de brigade Charbonnel
(strength includes all corps artillery – 34/1,735)
5/1st Foot Artillery (2/5/4/33)
10/1st Foot Artillery (0/2/2/16)
21/5th Foot Artillery (3/4/4/37)
4th Artillery Artisan Company (0/2/0/14)
Staff/4th Principal Train Battalion (3/2/0/0)
1/4th Principal Train Battalion (0/3/4/40)
2/4th Principal Train Battalion (1/4/8/47)
3/4th Principal Train Battalion (1/3/7/35)
4/4th Principal Train Battalion (1/4/8/53)
5/4th Principal Train Battalion (0/2/3/28)
6/4th Principal Train Battalion (0/0/1/4)
Staff/5th Principal Train Battalion (3/4/0/0)
Staff/10th Principal Train Battalion (1/4/0/0)
1/10th Principal Train Battalion (1/3/6/28)
2/10th Principal Train Battalion (1/2/4/13)
3/10th Principal Train Battalion (1/2/5/15)
4/10th Principal Train Battalion (0/0/1/1)
5/10th Principal Train Battalion (1/3/9/38)
6/10th Principal Train Battalion (1/4/8/45)
2/2nd (bis) Train Battalion (1/2/9/35)
Military Equipage (0/1/5/31)
VIII Corps: Général de division Junot
1st Division: Général de division Clauzel
Brigade: Général de brigade Menard
4/19th Line Regiment (18/278)
4/25th Line Regiment (15/253)
4/28th Line Regiment (19/324)
4/34th Line Regiment (13/342)
Brigade: Général de brigade Taupin
4/15th Légère Regiment (17/485)
4/46th Line Regiment (15/259)
4/75th Line Regiment (16/233)
Brigade: Général de brigade Godart
1/,2/,3/,4/22nd Line Regiment (72/1,648)
Artillery:
11/8th Foot Artillery (3/5/9/69)
Total 5-4pdrs, & 1 6" howitzer
12th Artillery Artisan Company (0/0/2/0)
Det. 1/11th Principal Train Battalion (0/1/1/5)
6/12th (bis) Train Battalion (0/3/7/50)
2nd Division: Général de division Solignac
Brigade: Général de brigade Gratien
1/,2/,3/15th Line Regiment (58/925)4
1/,2/,3/86th Line Regiment (54/1,006)
Brigade: Général de brigade Thomieres
1/,2/,3/,4/65th Line Regiment (80/1,951)
2/,3/Irish Legion (23/525)
Regiment de Prusse (22/354)
Artillery
20/7th Foot Artillery (1/2/3/15)
Total 4-4pdrs, & 2 6" howitzers
6th Artillery Artisan Company (2/6/5/67)
12th Artillery Artisan Company (0/0/2/0)
Det/2nd (bis) Train Battalion (1/3/5/33)
Det/5th Principal Train Battalion (0/1/3/27)
Brigade: (86/895)
1st Provisional Dragoon Regiment
2nd Provisional Dragoon Regiment
3rd Provisional Dragoon Regiment
Artillery: Général de brigade Foucher de Cariel
10 – 4 pdrs
Reserve Cavalry Corps:
Brigade: Général de brigade Lorcet (51/733)
1/,2/,3/3rd Dragoon Regiment
1/,2/,3/,4/6th Dragoon Regiment
Brigade: Général de brigade Cavrois (28/551)
1/,2/,3/,4/1lth Dragoon Regiment
Brigade: Général de brigade Ornano (58/1,014)
1/,2/,3/,4/15th Dragoon Regiment
1/,2/,3/,4/25th Dragoon Regiment
Artillery:
Artillery Reserve: (127/5,728)(contains all of army's
artillery and train)
4 – 4 pdrs
Gendarmerie (6/210)
Oman, A History of the War in the Peninsula
Copyright GFN 1990

From Nafziger (811CSAA)
Artillery Equipment
French Army of Portugal
1 March 1811
II Corps
7 – 8pdrs
8 – 4pdrs
4 – 3pdrs
6 – Howitzers
10 – 8pdr Caissons
9 – 4pdr Caissons
11 – Howitzer Caissons
47 – Infantry Caissons
1 – Park Caissons
1,040 8pdr rounds
1,488 4pdr rounds
424 3pdr rounds
600 Howitzer rounds
740,000 Infantry cartridges
VI Corps
12 – 8pdrs
6 – 4pdrs
6 – Howitzers
28 – 8pdr Caissons
8 – 4pdr Caissons
29 – Howitzer Caissons
32 – Infantry Caissons
1 – Powder Caissons
1 – Park Caissons
2,678 8pdr rounds
1,259 4pdr rounds
1,565 Howitzer rounds
500,000 Infantry cartridges
VIII Corps
12 – 4pdrs
2 – Howitzers
12 – 4pdr Caissons
12 – Howitzer Caissons
40 – Infantry Caissons
3- Powder Caissons
2,0l6 4pdr rounds
640 Howitzer rounds
540,000 Infantry cartridges
Cavalry Reserve
4 – 4pdrs
2 – Howitzers
4 – 4pdr Caissons
6 – Howitzer Caissons
2 – Infantry Caissons
672 4pdr rounds
324 Howitzer rounds
20,000 Infantry cartridges
Koch, Gen., Mémoires de Massena rédiges d'après les documents
qu'il a lassiés et sur ceux du Dépot de la Guerre et du Dépot des
Fortifications, Paulin et Lechevalier, Paris, 1848.
Copyright GFN 1990

Thanks very much- this is all interesting and useful stuff. It's interesting to see how much the artillery organization within the corps still resembles that of the 1805-1807 timeframe (minus the twelve pounders) rather than anticipating the 1812-14 organization.

I'm not an expert on the Army of Portugal or French organization more generally, but in going through a couple of period OoBs from 1805 through Vitoria, I was struck by how comparatively stable the regimental assignments to the 1st and 2nd Divisions of the 6th Corps on the OOB shown above were. Divisions came and went from the corps, as did commanders, and the divisions' numbering changed, but those two divisions were basically formed out of the same set of regiments from the time they marched away from the Channel until Salamanca. Which is nice from the gamer's perspective: you can paint them and use them for a wide range of scenarios.