Gunfreak | 08 Nov 2018 3:06 p.m. PST |
yet again we're shown that spending lot's of money on high tech ships useless as they always seem to come out the worst if it when they hit others ships. In this case a tanker. But I've read about various military ships coming out the looser again fishing ships too. So our very expensive high-tech frigat got hit by a tanker and sank on some shallows. So for no major casualties reported 12 wounded. |
Tgerritsen | 08 Nov 2018 4:02 p.m. PST |
Ulp. That's a very high tech frigate to be foundering… link |
Garand | 09 Nov 2018 6:46 a.m. PST |
ANYTHING that gets hit by a modern tanker isn't going to fare well! That's like my car getting hit by a 10-wheel truck with a full load… Damon. |
Gunfreak | 09 Nov 2018 8:53 a.m. PST |
And hence my point about wasting money on warship. Just take some old tankers send them at the enemy and sink ships, would work great againt aircraft carriers. Just make sure to have them full of oil. So they can't blow them up(given a full tanker has more energy than a smallish nukee) |
Winston Smith | 09 Nov 2018 11:10 a.m. PST |
This is like the old "wooden ships and iron men" debate. All the high tech in the world isn't worth a hill of beans if you let seamanship go to rot. As the USN is learning. |
Lion in the Stars | 09 Nov 2018 3:02 p.m. PST |
As the USN is learning the hard and expensive and embarrassing way. Fixed that for you, Winston. |
Aristonicus | 16 Dec 2018 1:03 a.m. PST |
A bit of a more detailed analysis: link Executive summary: Failure to use Mk I eyeball Even more detailed (in Norwegian) link Possible additional factor: Too many Shield-Maidens on deck:
In 2016, Norway introduced conscription for women. The Navy received the highest number of women after conscription duties were introduced. The Norwegian publication Armed Forces had in an article heaped praises on the KNM Helge Ingstad crew in which four out of five navigators were women. "It is advantageous to have many women on board. It will be a natural thing and a completely different environment, which I look at as positive," Lieutenant Iselin Emilie Jakobsen Ophus, a navigation officer at the warship, had said. link |
Gwydion | 16 Dec 2018 6:51 a.m. PST |
So the lessons our think tank has come up with are: 1) bin radar, sonar, modern comms, gps based navigation, guided weapons, point defence systems etc and go for steam rams? Okay. Any downside before NATO restructures and saves billions? Anyone? Anyone? Oh, and 2) Apparently women are inherently more likely to crash ships than men. Okay back to all male crews. Er…any thoughts about why shipwrecks happened before women got masters tickets? Mermaids perhaps? |
23rdFusilier | 16 Dec 2018 9:42 a.m. PST |
"Er…any thoughts about why shipwrecks happened before women got masters tickets?" well played sir, well played! |
Gunfreak | 16 Dec 2018 9:43 a.m. PST |
There was apperantly an American on the bridge too. Given the US navy's tendency to crash their ships. I say we use the American as a scapegoat. |
Murvihill | 16 Dec 2018 10:01 a.m. PST |
Gosh, the largest Navy in the world crashes more ships than any other navy in the world. How odd… |
UshCha | 17 Dec 2018 12:50 a.m. PST |
Its a great idea but if the frigate had sombody competent on the bridge a taker is actually easy to dodge. Turning is a thing of great beauty and slowness, about 20 min to do a 180 at cruise speed and 14 minutes for a crash stop. An Aircraft carriers can stop in 1/2 Nautical mile from 30 kts. So not really a good ramming vessle. However in the Guils wat Brit mine hunters followed tankers as the tanker would do better on a mine than the warship. |