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31 Oct 2018 12:18 p.m. PST
by Editor in Chief Bill

  • Changed title from "Tutonic Knights" to "Teutonic Knights"

01 Nov 2018 11:53 a.m. PST
by Editor in Chief Bill

  • Crossposted to Medieval Gallery board


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fernandopainting Sponsoring Member of TMP Fezian30 Oct 2018 11:42 p.m. PST

Tutonic Knights- Painted by Fernando Enterprises
Your comments welcome.

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More Images;https://www.miniaturelovers.com/25ss_tutonic_knights.html

Thresher01 Supporting Member of TMP31 Oct 2018 1:40 a.m. PST

Beautiful work.

Nice to see individual designs on each shield.

Glengarry531 Oct 2018 1:53 a.m. PST

Truly lovely but those are not "Teutonic" Knights. They are not even Knights, those are Fireforge Foot Sergeants figures. Teutonic sergeants wore grey surcoats with a black "Tau" cross.

fernandopainting Sponsoring Member of TMP Fezian31 Oct 2018 4:42 a.m. PST

Thanks for Correcting the Name.

Rallynow Supporting Member of TMP31 Oct 2018 8:02 a.m. PST

I thought you guys had all the uniform information in the world and didn't need customers to send any information?

JimDuncanUK31 Oct 2018 12:24 p.m. PST

Fireforge Foot Sergeants

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Teutonic Foot Sergeants

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Personal logo Doctor X Supporting Member of TMP31 Oct 2018 5:59 p.m. PST

I thought you guys had all the uniform information in the world and didn't need customers to send any information?

You thought wrong.

The website clearly indicates that while they have numerous Ospreys and "web-pages", you have to reference them to the figure you sent.

JimSelzer31 Oct 2018 10:05 p.m. PST

but they do a stellar job

GurKhan01 Nov 2018 2:10 p.m. PST

Teutonic sergeants wore grey surcoats with a black "Tau" cross.

Everyone says that, but does anyone know the original source? I don't think I have ever seen one cited. Does it apply to the whole period of the Order's history?

SAMURAIFREDDY02 Nov 2018 1:43 a.m. PST

Teutonic (or better to call them German Order ) sergeants wore grey surcoats with a black cross. The tau cross on grey surcoat was worn only by HalfBruders of the order who were not full Brethren but a sort of lower rank knights. They were in much lower number that sergants and knights. The fatc they were not Bleeped texted as knights is the reason why they were wearing grey instead of white and a Tau cross to differentiate them from sergeants as their rank was higher than them. This according to more recent studies and German Source. The depiction of the order sergeants wearing a Tau cross is a wrong interpretation fo the original sources.Also Teutonic is a definition that was never used historically used as the order was known as German Order. Hope this helps…

SAMURAIFREDDY02 Nov 2018 1:45 a.m. PST

Sorry I do not know why that beep came out in my post…the beeped word is "ranked" though!
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GurKhan02 Nov 2018 2:05 a.m. PST

This according to more recent studies and German Source.

Sorry, but this sort of vagueness is sort of what I meant by "never seen an original source cited". The idea that there was a confusion between sergeants and Halbbruder is some help, though; thanks.

Also Teutonic is a definition that was never used historically used as the order was known as German Order.

That's half correct, I think; always Deutscher Orden or the like when writing in German, but always Teutonicus in Latin – Ordo domus Sanctę Marię Theutonicorum Hierosolymitanorum.

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