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Cacique Caribe23 Oct 2018 11:39 a.m. PST

I think that's where I seem to catch most mentions of that fictional African country.

Is that fictional nation from a specific rule set? Who came up with that name?

Does it have various types of terrains, like jungle, mountains, savannas, etc.? Does it have any native architecture other than huts?

Does anyone ever play a "Bongolesia" before those periods, such as a Medieval or Renaissance setting, or even earlier?

Or perhaps some fantasy or superhero (Wakanda-like) version of that African locale?

Just curious.

Dan

PzGeneral23 Oct 2018 12:15 p.m. PST

I believe it is from the fertile mind of Murphy….

And I think it was either Rebel Minis or Two Hour Wargames that has an module for one of their rule sets for it….

PzGeneral23 Oct 2018 12:18 p.m. PST

It's Rebel Minis:

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They have minis for Government and Rebel forces too

Darrell B D Day23 Oct 2018 12:37 p.m. PST

A lot of it is inspired by AK47:
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After being inspired, everyone tends to go their own way:
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DBDD

Personal logo Saber6 Supporting Member of TMP Fezian23 Oct 2018 12:40 p.m. PST

IIRC there could be Zombies and Aliens, maybe both…

JimSelzer23 Oct 2018 2:50 p.m. PST

Its much easier for mind set of the stoic old men crowd to have a fiction nation in later wars. I have played more ancient and dark age campaigns using non historical maps and I think that is so because using most popular rules sets you can pit foes from 100 to 1000 years apart against each other.

Try getting a Napoleonic or WW2 player to do that

robert piepenbrink Supporting Member of TMP23 Oct 2018 3:07 p.m. PST

Jim, I'm sure if you ask nicely, most WWII gamers will allow you to bring your Mexican-American War army to a game against their Early War Germans, and I's almost sure you can find someone who will let you run 1066 English to defend against a Napoleonic French invasion. Not only that, but you should be able to finish the games in time for dinner.

It's not because we're old men. Even in my teen years ancients covered more than 1,000 years and abounded in unhistorical match-ups. Try thinking in terms of tech levels.

And the word you were looking for is not "stoic." Probably you mean "stodgy."

Long live Bongolesia! And the Maximum Leader, His Majesty, the President for Life!

JimSelzer23 Oct 2018 4:41 p.m. PST

my WW2 comment was about "fictional countries" not fighting 1000 years ago cultures

Personal logo etotheipi Sponsoring Member of TMP24 Oct 2018 5:46 a.m. PST

Tons and tons of Cold War games (and fiction) and science fiction are really playing WWII with fictional countries.

A lot of that, I hypothesize, has to do with a cultural norm in early post-WWII Western culture around an aversion to having the Axis powers not defeated. So, f'r'ex, Marvel's Hydra organization is really Nazis in green unitards. But they can't be actual Nazis, because actual Nazis have to definitively lose in any future/hypothetical battle. They can't just hang around and come back again and again and again. Surf Nazis Must Die!

I think that a lot of post-WWII games are really hypothetical WWII games, with different uniforms to assuage the corporate consciousness. I've seen some WWII players play such games, but that is just anecdotal, and not nearly enough info for a broad statement.

So … something back on topic? Is the PFL really just Mussolini in reducto ad absurdum clothing? For that matter, was Idi Amin?

robert piepenbrink Supporting Member of TMP24 Oct 2018 10:16 a.m. PST

JimSelzer

my WW2 comment was about "fictional countries" not fighting 1000 years ago cultures

Ah. Might have--oh, never mind. Actually, you just need to go a bit broader. WWII and Napoleonics rules tend to be based on specific historical armies, and inventing your own organization, training and equipment creates difficulties. When you want to just go wild on your paint job without inventing a superarmy, look for "moderns" rules rather then "WWII", and "horse and musket" rather than "Napoleonics." Plenty of "imagi-nations" to go with such rules.

Personal logo javelin98 Supporting Member of TMP24 Oct 2018 4:31 p.m. PST

The Bongoloids were noted for their lightning raids on neighboring villages, mounted on their native llamas.

Cacique Caribe24 Oct 2018 5:23 p.m. PST

Llamas? I thought it would be Cape Buffalo.

Dan
PS. By chance, are the Bongoloids neighbors with the Congaloids?

Bashytubits25 Oct 2018 1:41 p.m. PST

Nope, they are neighbors of the hemorrhoids.

Personal logo etotheipi Sponsoring Member of TMP25 Oct 2018 4:10 p.m. PST

Did someone say the Bongoloids wear buffalo plaid capes?

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Personal logo javelin98 Supporting Member of TMP25 Oct 2018 4:19 p.m. PST

Congaloids were fairly linear people. They almost always marched in column.

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