Au pas de Charge | 13 Oct 2018 7:28 a.m. PST |
Is there any authority for flags (or the lack of flags) for the French Colonial units serving in America? Like Regiment Port-Au-Prince etc? |
pvernon | 13 Oct 2018 4:19 p.m. PST |
There is a source that has that info. It's in French. I don't have a copy unfortunately. It would be neat if someone with access to the book and a working knowledge of French could make a list of all the colonial flags colors. I asked a similar question 5+ years ago on this forum and some nice person replied with the info for the Il d France regiment. |
Au pas de Charge | 13 Oct 2018 5:24 p.m. PST |
Hmm, very, very interesting. Maybe someone has the link to the thread? |
Mollinary | 14 Oct 2018 2:26 a.m. PST |
I believe the book is "Drapeaux et Etendards du Roi" by Pierre Charrie. Unfortunately the information on colonial regimental Flags is a little sparse. The Infanterie de Marine et des Colonies covers less than half of page 104, and concludes with the rather depressing phrase "Les Drapeaux des autres regiments des colonies: Port-au-Prince, Guadeloupe, Port-Louis, Isle Bourbon, Pondicherry sont inconnus a ce jour." Nevertheless, he does provide details for the following regiments, in addition to the various corps of the Royal infanterie de Marine: des Etrangers de Dunkerque 1760-63; Legion de l'Isle de France et de Bourbon 1766-1772; Regiment du Cap 1772-1775; Regiment de l'Isle de France 1772-1775; Regiment de la Martinique 1772-1775. |
Durban Gamer | 14 Oct 2018 3:11 a.m. PST |
Indeed a dark corner for researchers. And of course any snippets are useful for those gaming the Indies as well as the Americas. |
Winston Smith | 14 Oct 2018 3:24 a.m. PST |
So, what are the details? That's what the OP asked. I'd like to know myself. Savannah is on my to-do list. |
Mollinary | 14 Oct 2018 4:50 a.m. PST |
Actually Winston that is not what the original poster asked for. He asked if there was any authority for the flags of French Colonial Units. I have identified one, including which regiments it covers. . He then asks about colonial units serving in America, like the Regiment Port au Prince, etc I have indicated that Charrie's book states that the flags of the regiment Port au Prince are unknown at present. Unfortunately I do not know what other regiments were serving in America, so cannot answer that. As for Savannah, I have also no idea which French Units fought there, so cannot be of help. Sorry! |
Au pas de Charge | 27 Apr 2019 2:03 p.m. PST |
Been trying to get this book "Drapeaux et Etendards du Roi" by Pierre Charrie for a decent price for a while now and have come up empty. Can somone provide a scan or description of the Flags mentioned by mollinary above? Royal infanterie de Marine: des Etrangers de Dunkerque 1760-63; Legion de l'Isle de France et de Bourbon 1766-1772; Regiment du Cap 1772-1775; Regiment de l'Isle de France 1772-1775; Regiment de la Martinique 1772-1775. |
Brechtel198 | 27 Apr 2019 3:16 p.m. PST |
Try abebooks.com. They have a few for sale, most of them at a reasonable price. |
SOB Van Owen | 27 Apr 2019 9:52 p.m. PST |
Pengel and Hurt books might be helpful. They too are available from Abebooks. I wouldn't know which one to recommend, but they're probably not in the Madison du Roi. |
Au pas de Charge | 28 Apr 2019 3:07 p.m. PST |
But the Pengel and Hurt books would be too early for AWI. It seems the flags did change over time. I am not even sure that many of the Caribbean militias were established until after the SYW and certainly were at a minimum newly raised shortly before the AWI. They do look like good books in their own right. |
Brechtel198 | 01 May 2019 9:35 a.m. PST |
Can somone provide a scan or description of the Flags mentioned by mollinary above? If you would like scans of those colors, my email is Boulart198@yahoo.com. I'd be happy to scan them and email them to you. |