"How Arnhem was lost around Eindhoven" Topic
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Tango01 | 10 Oct 2018 9:15 p.m. PST |
"A lot of explanations have been written about the failure of Operation Market Garden, better known as the Battle of Arnhem after the ultimate goal of the operation. In the mainly English speaking literature there has been very few references to Dutch sources, while there have been many detailed publications about Market Garden. The most notable are ‘Een andere kijk op de slag om Arnhem' (Another Perspective on the Battle of Arnhem, 2009) by Peter Berends, and ‘Einddoel Maas' (End Goal Meuse, 1984) and ‘Brabant bevrijd' (Brabant liberated, 1993) by Jack Didden en Maarten Swarts. The latter argue that Market Garden was lost in Brabant. I want underline their thesis and want to add some new perspectives to this in this article. Betrayal by a Dutch spy? At the 15th of September a German patrol at the Dutch-Belgian border near Eindhoven caught an officer of the Dutch Royal Army named Christiaan Lindemans. He demanded to be send to the Abwehr (German counter-intelligence) HQ in Driebergen as soon as possible. Lindemans was attached to the HQ of the Dutch prince-consort Bernhard and learned there about Operation Market Garden. In fact he was a German spy who wanted to inform his masters about the oncoming onslaught, in fact the biggest air landing operation in history. Luckily for the Allies, the Germans received Lindemans' account lukewarm and took no precautions against airborne operations. On the contrary, Field-Marshall Walther Model had established his headquarters in Oosterbeek in the middle of the anticipated British drop zone and the tattered units of II. SS Panzer-Corps, which was temporarily based around Arnhem, was bound to take off for Germany from September 17 onwards. This did not mean the Germans were not concerned about oncoming Allied ground operations…." Main page link Amicalement Armand
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deephorse | 11 Oct 2018 5:18 a.m. PST |
At the 15th of September a German patrol at the Dutch-Belgian border near Eindhoven caught an officer of the Dutch Royal Army named Christiaan Lindemans. He demanded to be send to the Abwehr (German counter-intelligence) HQ in Driebergen as soon as possible. Lindemans was attached to the HQ of the Dutch prince-consort Bernhard and learned there about Operation Market Garden. In fact he was a German spy who wanted to inform his masters about the oncoming onslaught, in fact the biggest air landing operation in history. In his book ‘Arnhem', Antony Beevor says that this is a post-war myth. |
Gunfreak | 11 Oct 2018 5:32 a.m. PST |
How is operation market garden better known as battle of Arnhem? |
Tango01 | 11 Oct 2018 11:32 a.m. PST |
How Antoy can be so sure…? Amicalement Armand |
uglyfatbloke | 12 Oct 2018 4:59 a.m. PST |
It's been pretty thoroughly debunked by several writers before Beevor. |
deephorse | 12 Oct 2018 5:18 a.m. PST |
How Antoy can be so sure…? Are you saying he's wrong? |
Tango01 | 12 Oct 2018 11:15 a.m. PST |
Could be… or it's impossible?…. Amicalement Armand |
Mobius | 12 Oct 2018 11:26 a.m. PST |
It's been pretty thoroughly debunked by several writers before Beevor. English writers have the final say on facts. |
deephorse | 12 Oct 2018 12:19 p.m. PST |
Could be… or it's impossible?…. Well I await the results of your research on the matter. |
uglyfatbloke | 12 Oct 2018 1:01 p.m. PST |
Start with Buckingham's book maybe? |
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