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Gunfreak Supporting Member of TMP23 Sep 2018 10:24 a.m. PST

I'm toying with doing a small peninsula project, doing it on the chea, mostly plastic (while my main project with be mostly metal)

My plan was doing a British division at Salamanca. I wanted a battalion of Highlanders, to spruce up the division. But by 1812, only the 42nd and (mabye 92nd?) Still used the kilt.

The 42nd was in the first division that wasn't engaged in that battle.

Artilleryman23 Sep 2018 10:41 a.m. PST

Reality bites every time. Even today, the troops you see getting on the ship or the plane look very different after a couple of months in the field. Whatever may be said by some enthusiasts, the kilt can be very impractical and some regiments gave it up in order to encourage recruitment from the Lowlands and the rest of the Kingdom.

Gunfreak Supporting Member of TMP23 Sep 2018 10:48 a.m. PST

Bleeped text practicality!
Didn't these people know we'd be judging them on style points!!
If it was up to me(and one day it will be) the British would still be using their seven years war uniform. I might allow them to keep the SA80(though a rail gun made up to look like a brown bess would be better)

14Bore23 Sep 2018 10:49 a.m. PST

If it was the only battle you will ever put them in you have a historical problem. But if that unit needs to go back or forward in time you need to compromise or get more than 1 unit.

Winston Smith Supporting Member of TMP23 Sep 2018 11:11 a.m. PST

French should always wear white uniforms.
Full stop. End of discussion.
And every Regiment in every army should wear facings in a color unique to that regiment. Big full cuffs. Wide lapels.
Lace? Of course. Unique lace.

Screw that drab camouflage nonsense. What are they so afraid of that they need to hide???

Paul B23 Sep 2018 11:40 a.m. PST

Remember these are your toys, for your enjoyment. If you want kilts have kilts.

Gonsalvo23 Sep 2018 5:20 p.m. PST

The Gordon Highlanders saw action in Egypt, Copenhagen, the Peninsula, the Walcheren expedition, and Watgerloo. Hard to beat that!

saltflats192923 Sep 2018 6:51 p.m. PST

Well if you do WW2 US forces, history is olive drab.

Personal logo COL Scott ret Supporting Member of TMP23 Sep 2018 8:29 p.m. PST

If you want kilts put them in kilts, after all you are the commander and can set the uniform.

I like my horse and musket armies to be dressed for battle and as I am commander they are. That obviously includes kilted highlanders.

nsolomon9923 Sep 2018 9:42 p.m. PST

I think its disgraceful that fielding Highlanders for the Napoleonic period in anything other than kilts is even being contemplated.

Outrageous!! I'll have a question asked in Parliament! The nerve!! Who are these people?!

Thresher01 Supporting Member of TMP23 Sep 2018 10:39 p.m. PST

Because they have not fully embraced the Dos Equis ethos……

Martin Rapier23 Sep 2018 11:26 p.m. PST

I've got WW1 and WW2 regiments in kilts.

If you want Napoleonic troops in kilts, put them in kilts. Who cares?

14Bore24 Sep 2018 3:39 a.m. PST

Getting to like the idea of the British Grenadiers going into a battle with bear skins, and maybe the 101st in Afghanistan in kepis

Personal logo Darrell B D Day Supporting Member of TMP24 Sep 2018 5:51 a.m. PST

I've got a Brunswick light infantry battalion with white plumes on their shakos to distinguish them from the other regiment that has black. Too many light infantry, scandalous disregard of what they should be wearing but so far, the heavens haven't fallen.

I did this terrible thing in 1971 – if I was painting them now I probably wouldn't dream of it but I'm not going to change them for anyone grin


42flanker Supporting Member of TMP24 Sep 2018 11:00 a.m. PST


"When the regiment returned from the Peninsula in 1814, from being so long in the field, the feathers had disappeared from the bonnet, and a little red feather on the front, the same as on a shako, had been adopted."

Keltie's 'History of the Scottish Highlands (1875) quoting fom John Wheatley, regimental historian of the 42nd who enlisted 1817.

"We had lost all we had in the world, except the buttons on our clothes, that told our regiments."

Pte James Gunn. The personal narrative of a private soldier, who served in the Forty-Second Highlanders, for twelve years, during the late war.. [1821]

I cant find it today, but I have read that in the 42nd some feilidh beags became so ragged they were re-cut to make tartan trousers, as happened in the AWI.

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