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Tango0114 Sep 2018 9:58 p.m. PST

…. With Russia's Top Fighter Near Alaska This Week.

"US F-22 stealth fighter jets intercepted Russian Tu-95 nuclear-capable bombers and Su-35 fighters that approached Alaska on Tuesday, and it highlights a downside to the US's top fighter jets.

The F-22, with its incredible acrobatic abilities in the air and all-aspect stealth cloaking it from enemies at a distance, is the US's most lethal combat plane…."

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Toaster14 Sep 2018 10:43 p.m. PST

A one dimensional article that misses ways to keep the advantage that stealth provides. It goes something like "Hi I just popped up on your wingtip and your radar never saw me coming, want to try and guess where my wingman might be."

Katzbalger15 Sep 2018 4:02 a.m. PST

Crappy article. So the F-22 is worse, 'cause the weapons aren't on the wings--wow. And the F-35 is like a quarterback? Bleeped text?

I do agree with one thing in the article--the F-15 should be used for the average intercept, but only because it is cheaper to operate and saves the wear-and-tear on the F-22's airframe.

Rob

Tgunner15 Sep 2018 4:00 p.m. PST

Actually I thought the author was quite clear that in this situation that the F22 was at a disadvantage because it couldn't use its normal advantage. After all, they wanted to warn the Russians, not slaughter them.

The F15 would be a better air frame for this sort of work. Its big, powerful, fast, maneuverable, and very well armed. Plus, you could still have a flight of Raptors riding overwatch just in case Ivan gets a twitchy trigger finger.

Thresher0116 Sep 2018 2:00 a.m. PST

Yes, we have too few F-22s to be burning hours on them in this type of stuff.

Also, those big, beautiful Sukhois are more maneuverable than the F-22.

Lion in the Stars16 Sep 2018 12:48 p.m. PST

Except that you need to keep the F22 pilots in practice. Simulator hours don't entirely count.

15mm and 28mm Fanatik16 Sep 2018 2:45 p.m. PST

"…big, beautiful Sukhois?" I haven't heard that expression in a long time, Thresher01.

I had my suspicions but now it's been confirmed. Welcome back after your self-imposed hiatus, Mako11. Knew you'd rejoin us someday.

Lion in the Stars16 Sep 2018 4:25 p.m. PST

Hey, I happen to agree that the Sukhoi are quite pretty. And quite big.

Pretty sure I've even used the phrase "big beautiful Sukhoi" before.

But I doubt that the Su35 is more maneuverable *at combat speeds* than the F22.

NavyVet16 Sep 2018 7:37 p.m. PST

The F 22 can carry two 2000 pound bombs internally. This allows a agile dog fighter to also be a stealth attack bomber. Not sure what this article is ment to imply.

NavyVet16 Sep 2018 7:42 p.m. PST

So tthere is a F22 squadron based I Alaska. They do what they were designed to do intercept other aircraft. I am not sure of why you want to conserve a aircraft to a point that you don't use it.

Thresher0116 Sep 2018 9:27 p.m. PST

Thanks, 28mm.

Seems like virtually any older, less capable, less expensive, less rare fighter could do the job.

I'm not saying don't use them completely, but we do need to conserve them a bit.

Not doing that, from the 1990s on, is what really got us in such a dire situation, with much/most of our warfighting equipment worn out, and too expensive to replace, on policing all over the globe.

15mm and 28mm Fanatik17 Sep 2018 10:17 a.m. PST

I'm quite fond of the big beautifuls myself. Own a couple of the 1/72 diecast models of the Flanker-E released by HM last year.

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Tango0117 Sep 2018 11:59 a.m. PST

Relally nice!….

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