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TimeCast Sponsoring Member of TMP12 Sep 2018 6:45 a.m. PST

The latest army for our Cold War 84 range is nearly ready.

The US Army in Europe (USAREUR) range will feature 10mm scale infantry and support troops in the Kevlar PASGT helmet, and armed with the latest 80s technology such as the M240 GPMG, TOW and Dragon anti-tank systems, Stinger SAMs and M203 grenade launchers.

The models are almost ready to go into production moulds.

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The initial batch of vehicles should follow shortly and will include the M1 Abrams (105mm gun version) and several variants of the M113 APC.

Mark and Barrie
TimeCast

timecastmodels.co.uk
e-mail: sales@timecastmodels.co.uk
Tel: 01743 465676

DaleWill Supporting Member of TMP12 Sep 2018 8:12 a.m. PST

Yes, Yes & YES! Would be great if they were at Fall-In in a couple of months.

MiniPatton12 Sep 2018 9:44 a.m. PST

Looking forward to these.

seneffe12 Sep 2018 12:52 p.m. PST

They look great. But maybe M60 LMG teams c1984??

79thPA Supporting Member of TMP12 Sep 2018 2:08 p.m. PST

M60s and steel pots.

TimeCast Sponsoring Member of TMP13 Sep 2018 12:29 a.m. PST

Our range is based on the mid 80s(the clue is in the name of the range Cold War 84).

The M60 MG and the steel helmet were long gone by then. The Kevlar helmet was in general service by the early 80s. The M240 MG replaced the M60 in the late 70's.

Believe it or not we do actually research these things when we design the models…

If you want M60s and M1 steel helmets try the Pendraken Vietnam range.

Barrie
TimeCast

Thresher01 Supporting Member of TMP13 Sep 2018 12:33 a.m. PST

Good to see, though I would have preferred M-1 helmets and M60s too.

Do you make a prone, M60 gunner now?

Last I checked, there wasn't one.

79thPA Supporting Member of TMP13 Sep 2018 4:52 a.m. PST

I and everyone else in the army in the 80s who ever carried an M60 and wore a steel pot would have to disagree with you. They are good until the end of the decade.
The 240 was designed as a vehicle mounted machine gun -- not an infantry weapon. An infantry version of the 240 was not adopted until the 90s. The 249 was designed as an infantry weapon and was "introduced" in the mid 80s, but saw service in limited numbers. I hope this helps with future figure design.

Thresher01 Supporting Member of TMP13 Sep 2018 9:41 a.m. PST

Yea, my recollection is only some units getting the new helmet before the end of the Cold War, and really starting about 1984 – 1985 for those, in quantity.

seneffe13 Sep 2018 12:22 p.m. PST

M60s long gone by mid 1980s? I genuinely don't think so at least in USAREUR in W Germany, which I presume is the principal object of depiction. Presuming also that 'mid 1980s' includes c1983-86.

I am not a USAREUR veteran, but all of the contemp photo evidence I have available has M60 as principal infantry squad MG in Germany until 1986 minimum, and perhaps somewhat longer. Kevlar Fritz helmets maybe gradually moving to the majority in combat units by c1984/5 (USAREUR veterans pls advise on that).

From the phots I have access to, the M249 was supplied first to stateside units such as the 7th and 10th ID (which I understand weren't formally earmarked for European reinforcement) in the late 80s. I really think squad M60s are correct in USAREUR in the classic c1985 'John Hackett Third World War/ Coyle Team Yankee' timeframe. But of course I defer to actual vets.

I think the M240 is actually the 7.62mm GPMG clone fitted to the loader's hatch position on the M1 Abrams in the mid 80s timeframe- perhaps more widely used post cold war but I don't know.

On the other hand, these are really nice figures in a small scale, so what's not to like about them??!!

trance13 Sep 2018 2:48 p.m. PST

Barrie
Big fan but your wrong.

Onomarchos Supporting Member of TMP13 Sep 2018 2:52 p.m. PST

I am a vet of this time Timecast got it wrong. The M240 was used as a coaxial MG starting in the early 1980s, but US Army infantry units did NOT have the M240 until the early 1990s. The M249 SAW did come in earlier, but the M60 was the main GPMG well into the 1990s.

As far as helmets, my unit did not get the new 'fritz' headgear unit 1985.

Mark

Thresher01 Supporting Member of TMP13 Sep 2018 8:04 p.m. PST

This was discussed here, a few years back, when BF was releasing their 15mm American troops, and also got it wrong.

Legion 414 Sep 2018 7:23 a.m. PST

I am a vet of this time Timecast got it wrong. The M240 was used as a coaxial MG starting in the early 1980s, but US Army infantry units did NOT have the M240 until the early 1990s. The M249 SAW did come in earlier, but the M60 was the main GPMG well into the 1990s.
As far as helmets, my unit did not get the new 'fritz' headgear unit 1985.
Yes, I was too, and agree. Looks like some other Vets here agree also.

Also the Dragon round looks too thin. And we had M60 MGs in our all Inf units stateside and in the ROK all my time on active duty, '79-'90. Never saw or heard of an M240 with Grunt units as a Grunt Ldr/Cdr. As a Mech Co Cdr I had to sign for all that stuff ! And I was with two RDF 18th ABN XXX units.

We didn't get M249 SAWs until @ the mid-80s. And yes, the "Fritz"/Kevlar until about '85. I remember all of this pretty well and have pics too ! evil grin

Believe it or not we do actually research these things when we design the models…
I don't doubt that, but we are only telling you what we carried, fired, signed for, saw, experienced, etc., during our time as "Cold War Warriors". old farts

E.g, when I was assigned to the 101 at a Rifle PL in '80 almost everything we had was leftovers from the Vietnam War. Same thing when I was an ROTC Cadet, '75-'79. Including the C-Rats ! And it stayed about that way until about '82-'83.

Even as ROTC Cadets '75-'79, we were issued M14s at first, until about '77 (?) old fart

Later when I served in 3 M113 Mech Bns. Our M88 and M578 Tracked Recovery vehicle crews were using M3 Grease Guns. Leftover from WWII or Korea.

On the other hand, these are really nice figures in a small scale,
Very true … Again did not mean to offend Barrie … Just trying to be accurate, based on our experiences.

79thPA Supporting Member of TMP14 Sep 2018 8:39 a.m. PST

Yep, I agree that they are nice figures, which is why I suggested steel pot versions Perhaps in the scale you can't tell a steel pot from a k pot, but don't have the audacity to tell me that I didn't have a steel pot and an M60, and then provide me with a bunch of false information about issued gear/weapons. His researcher/s failed him, and he needs to acknowledge that.

Legion 414 Sep 2018 2:03 p.m. PST

Well these could still be used for after the Cold War. No problem with that. It's like with WWII models. Most of the stuff used in the France '40 campaign wouldn't generally be seen in say '43 or afterwards.

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