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LeonAdler Sponsoring Member of TMP08 Sep 2018 4:44 a.m. PST

Always a bit hesitant about putting up preliminary WIP pics but been asked by a few people about progress
on these.
The Jeeps are just very basic at the moment and the figures are in the first stages
of being adjusted to fit so everything looks a bit rough.
The jeeps are the Airfix Airborne and the Heller/Airfix US jeep.
The figures have been tested for fit in the S-Models and the taleri fast build and fit fine.








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JARROVIAN Supporting Member of TMP08 Sep 2018 6:09 a.m. PST

Don't know about US Airborne jeeps, but British ones had lots of modifications to make them easier to fit into gliders. main ones were cut down bumper bars at each end, removal of all side hand holds, and removal of the windscreen. Not sure about the canvas tilt, and some jeeps had spare wheel moved to the bonnet (hood). Sometimes the tools were removed and mounted behind the front bumper bar, in front of the radiator grille, again to reduce width for glider transportation.
I noticed, these are just prelims, so I'm not criticising, just pointing out, although you're probably aware.
The figures look excellent.

Fred Cartwright08 Sep 2018 6:16 a.m. PST

Wow Airfix Jeeps are a lot more expensive than I remember and you don't get a free Buffalo anymore!

LeonAdler Sponsoring Member of TMP08 Sep 2018 8:34 a.m. PST

JARROVIAN,
Thanks for that. The US jeep is pretty much un modified as the WACO was rather built around the jeep rather than having to be show horned into an existing glider as the Brits had to do.
The jeeps in the pics are barely assembled let alone finished ( wheels are blutacked!). The process of final fitting of the figures so they just pop in as finished figs is hard on a fully asembled jeep at this stage, hence leaving them very basic.

Fred Cartwright, very true though the new one is a delightful little kit.
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donlowry08 Sep 2018 9:03 a.m. PST

To me, the men seem a trifle large compared to the jeep (or the jeep looks small).

Legion 408 Sep 2018 9:37 a.m. PST

men seem a trifle large compared to the jeep
Well they are Airborne, so they are usually a healthy and fit lot ! wink

Korvessa08 Sep 2018 10:19 a.m. PST

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Can't see much of it – but here is a pic of a US Airborne jeep. The gent in picture was PIR not glider

deephorse08 Sep 2018 1:59 p.m. PST

Hmmn. "Join Facebook or log in to continue".

Bah to that.

Korvessa08 Sep 2018 5:12 p.m. PST

oops. Let me find another way
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D A THB08 Sep 2018 10:11 p.m. PST

donlowry, I imagine if Leon was to trim the mens bottoms and backs they would probably look much better. (You could always pretend they are 1/56th scale figures in a 1/56th scale jeep lol.)

LeonAdler Sponsoring Member of TMP08 Sep 2018 11:33 p.m. PST

This is the problem with WIP shots people do make the assumption that its a finished project however much you state that it isnt.Some of the figures are not really sitting properly ( the Thompson guy in particular in the last pic)just being popped in for photos and not properly glued in.
Jeeps are a tight fit in reality and US Paras are 'big' with the amount of kit and 'loose fit' uniform.
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Fred Cartwright09 Sep 2018 11:59 a.m. PST

I imagine if Leon was to trim the mens bottoms and backs they would probably look much better. (You could always pretend they are 1/56th scale figures in a 1/56th scale jeep lol.)

Sadly that would only depress Leon as 1/56 figures in 1/56 Jeeps fit very nicely without any drastic surgery on the poor men's anatomy!

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LeonAdler Sponsoring Member of TMP09 Sep 2018 1:12 p.m. PST

Well always easier if you make the vehicle and the figures in the same design house. You can tweak both sets of designs for a neat fit. Harder when trying to fit in with an already made kit.
The easist way of doing the 20's would have been to cast the seats as part of the figures but thats tricky given the different jeep kit options available and the need to modify the kits to enable cast on seats to fit nicely
I sure hope that jeep isnt moving otherwise the guy in the back is gonna end up having a close encounter with the road surface balanced like that.
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Fred Cartwright09 Sep 2018 1:27 p.m. PST

I sure hope that jeep isnt moving otherwise the guy in the back is gonna end up having a close encounter with the road surface balanced like that.

Actually he seems a bit more solidly braced on this picture. But maybe knowing he is not going to have drastic surgery on delicate bits of his anatomy has made him a bit cocky! :-)

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Also not sure the guy in the back of this Jeep holding his rifle up is that secure either. One decent bump could see him in the road too.

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LeonAdler Sponsoring Member of TMP10 Sep 2018 1:54 a.m. PST

Errrrrr Fred think your being just a little unfair comparing a very prelim WIP with a finished model photo'd for advertising purposes……….
I think my instincts about putting up WIP are correct, wont be doing that again.
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Fred Cartwright10 Sep 2018 2:01 a.m. PST

Errrrrr Fred think your being just a little unfair comparing a very prelim WIP with a finished model photo'd for advertising purposes……….

I am pulling your leg Leon! The figures are very nice and well animated and I am sure will be up to your usual standard when finished. But the Rubicon kit does show that "28mm" figures can be nicely proportioned and look good too.

TunnelRat Supporting Member of TMP10 Sep 2018 4:53 a.m. PST

Keep it coming Leon – love seeing your work.

donlowry10 Sep 2018 12:27 p.m. PST

One way the Americans could spot German infiltrators during the Bulge was that there were more than 2 of them in a jeep -- highly unusual for U.S. troops! (I actually read that somewhere, honest.)

This is the problem with WIP shots people do make the assumption that its a finished project however much you state that it isnt. Some of the figures are not really sitting properly

I knew it wasn't a finished product, but you asked for comments…, sort-of.

How do the actual scales compare? The jeep, IIRC, had an 80-inch wheelbase.

Fred Cartwright10 Sep 2018 12:42 p.m. PST

One way the Americans could spot German infiltrators during the Bulge was that there were more than 2 of them in a jeep -- highly unusual for U.S. troops! (I actually read that somewhere, honest.)

I have read it too, but not sure how accurate it is particularly during the early stages of the offensive when there were a number of hasty retreats. I should imagine the niceties of Jeep loading were abandoned in the rush to get away.

LeonAdler Sponsoring Member of TMP10 Sep 2018 1:27 p.m. PST

Not sure what the question is but the Airfix jeeps wheelbase is spot on ( front to rear axle)1.1" at 1/72.
Airborne jeeps, as there were so few of em around for the size of the unit tended to have more than 2 fellas in em thats for sure. Black washed casting do tend to look bigger than the painted equivilent as they are reflecting a lot more light I think is the reason. And of course the pics are x 4 actual size.
Like I said lesson learned.
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Legion 411 Sep 2018 7:31 a.m. PST

One way the Americans could spot German infiltrators during the Bulge was that there were more than 2 of them in a jeep -- highly unusual for U.S. troops!
Why walk [or run !] when you can ride !? evil grin

donlowry11 Sep 2018 9:23 a.m. PST

Not sure what the question is but the Airfix jeeps wheelbase is spot on ( front to rear axle)1.1" at 1/72.

OK, the jeep is to scale, are the men? (Just asking, not accusing.)

LeonAdler Sponsoring Member of TMP11 Sep 2018 1:09 p.m. PST

I think it will be easier if you just wait till they finished then you'll be able to judge for yourself which will be more reliable info than any I can give you.
Just have a look at some contempory pics when you do to see just how small jeeps are relative to their crews.
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TunnelRat Supporting Member of TMP12 Sep 2018 4:15 a.m. PST

I think that people are forgetting that 1/72 is not the same as 20mm & that 20mm figures can differ in size from manufacturer to manufacturer.

As far as I am concerned these figures look great as they are & I will definitely be buying them once they are available.

Blacky75022 Sep 2018 5:07 p.m. PST

Look great Leon

LeonAdler Sponsoring Member of TMP16 Oct 2018 1:52 a.m. PST

A query chaps, just been watching A Bridge too Far (and before you ask it was after a 10 hour casting day lol) to looking at jeeps. Noticed in the James Cann bit that he had an wooden stocked M1 Carbine 'clipped' to the bonnet of his jeep. Deos anyone know if this was 'real' or something dreamnt up by Hollywood? Trying to figure out the various bits and bobs that needs to be put in the Jeep crew packs.
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Legion 416 Oct 2018 8:03 a.m. PST

I believe that is true Leon, but don't think all jeeps may have had that … Scroll thru these pics you'll see some with that "holster" on the windshield … but not all … link

LeonAdler Sponsoring Member of TMP16 Oct 2018 8:11 a.m. PST

Thank you Legion, seems to the consensus which means I'll have to look at including one in the pack.
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donlowry16 Oct 2018 10:21 a.m. PST

he had an wooden stocked M1 Carbine 'clipped' to the bonnet of his jeep.

could be fun when engine heat cooks off the rounds in the magazine!

Herce Salon de Guerre16 Oct 2018 12:20 p.m. PST

great stuff Leon

cheers
Matt
Mayenne
France

Legion 417 Oct 2018 8:12 a.m. PST

could be fun when engine heat cooks off the rounds in the magazine!
Probably never get that hot ! It is a small engine after all ! evil grin


Thank you Legion,
Glad to help … I've seen it with that a number of times. However, would not be surprised if some GIs took it off, etc.

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