repaint | 07 Sep 2018 1:30 p.m. PST |
Jack Ryan is painful to watch. The TV series is filled with Hollywood feel good positive scripted corrective behavior. The creative people of the studios taking the high moral ground and educating us the masses with the dogma of the day. Very interesting actually from an anthropological perspective. I feel lucky I saw FAUDA that deals with nothing of that non sense. Just down to dirt reality and not a pre-fabricated SJW world. So let me ask you, isn't it actually "cultural appropriation" of Tom Clancy's work who is not known for being particularly liberal? :) ah ah. |
BorisTheSpider | 07 Sep 2018 1:36 p.m. PST |
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Winston Smith | 07 Sep 2018 1:39 p.m. PST |
Tom Clancy has been dead for years. |
mjkerner | 07 Sep 2018 1:40 p.m. PST |
I lasted about 5 minutes, maybe less. Dreck to the Nth degree! |
repaint | 07 Sep 2018 2:02 p.m. PST |
ah ah, you should watch the Magnum PI reboot trailer… |
Neal Smith | 07 Sep 2018 2:04 p.m. PST |
OK, I didn't listen when Jessica Jones (season 2) was getting bad reviews and I watched it. Thanks for the heads-up on this one! ;D |
dwight shrute | 07 Sep 2018 3:15 p.m. PST |
When you cast an actor who was in the comedy American office for years and years as America's new tough guy …#justdoesn't work |
Pictors Studio | 07 Sep 2018 3:33 p.m. PST |
I'm not taking dwight's word on this one. |
Oberlindes Sol LIC | 07 Sep 2018 3:39 p.m. PST |
Dwight Shrute makes a good point. Look at the reboot of Hawaii 5-0. I just can't believe McGarrett or Dano. They are so soft and almost weepy that I cannot believe that they actually have the fighting and survival skills that they show. Maybe that is some really deep undercover stuff, huh? |
darthfozzywig | 07 Sep 2018 4:15 p.m. PST |
Don't forget that before Bruce Willis became the ultimate action movie badass, he was that goofy guy in Moonlighting. |
darthfozzywig | 07 Sep 2018 4:16 p.m. PST |
Then again, Bruce had John McTiernan directing him. |
MechanicalHorizon | 07 Sep 2018 4:26 p.m. PST |
That's one thing about the Die Hard series I loved, that McClain was just a cop. Now everyone has to be ex-special forces, CIA, SEAL, Delta etc. It gets old after a while. |
Minibeady | 07 Sep 2018 6:49 p.m. PST |
Man, so many Dwight jokes here. But in all seriousness, John Krasinski did an incredible job in 13hrs, and it's sad to see him down to this. |
15mm and 28mm Fanatik | 07 Sep 2018 6:54 p.m. PST |
Krasinski isn't the problem. He successfully ditched his comedic roots a while back in such movies as '13 Hours: The Secret Soldiers of Benghazi' and 'A Quiet Place.' The problem is that the show is run by writers and producers using it as a vehicle for their PC liberal agenda. OTOH Jennifer Garner's new blood-soaked action-revenge flick, 'Peppermint,' is being universally panned and condemned by Hollywood as right-wing Trumpian anti-immigrant fantasy for the fact that its villains are hispanic stereotypes. I am still going to see it because Sydney Bristow is back, baby! |
repaint | 07 Sep 2018 7:19 p.m. PST |
By my neck of the woods, we don't say "PC liberal agenda" but "PC regressive agenda". Mostly because they are racist, bigots, puritans, sexist and of course dictatorial. I encourage you to check out TV series from abroad. Good stuff from Norway, Israel, Germany and UK of course (although we can feel the regressive washing there sometimes as well). But, yes, I cut short the Ryan season and stopped at episode 6. It is just tiring to have regressive writers trying to educate me on world's affairs and society. |
ToysnSoldiers | 08 Sep 2018 1:39 a.m. PST |
I don't give a for the "PC liberal agenda". That's not the problem in "Jack Ryan". The problem is that the script is bad, bad, bad: no focus, poor dialogues and general lack of direction. The Looming Tower has PC agenda, but it's heads and shoulders above Jack Ryan, quality-wise. |
Darrell B D Day | 08 Sep 2018 1:29 p.m. PST |
This looks like an interesting topic but some translation would help eg: what do the following mean to- "positive scripted corrective behavior" "FAUDA" "pre-fabricated SJW world" It may be that the acronyms above mean nothing to me because I'm in the UK – all US readers probably know immediately what they mean. That's the problem with acronyms – they create their own exclusion zone; if you're not in the know – you're out…., DBDD |
walkabout | 08 Sep 2018 1:36 p.m. PST |
In the series Ryan is just an ex-marine officer, not a ex-special forces or anything like that. As taken from the General Trivia of the series "Jack Ryan is an outstanding statistician, according to the Tom Clacy novels. He graduated from Boston College (is seen wearing a BC t-shirt while rowwing on the Potomic) with a Bachelor's degree in economics, passed the CPA exam prior to serving as a US marine, and after receiving a medical discharge, went on to become a stockbroker at Merrill Lynch, where he saw an almost $6 USD million return on a personal investment." One of the Executive producers of Jack Ryan is Graham Roland a former US Marine who served 3 tours in Iraq. I happen to like my villains to have real motivations for what they do and the opening show Bekaa Valley in 1983 during the Lebanese Civil War starts to establish these motivations. Watch the series with an open mind and read the General Trivia which explains a lot about why they're doing what they do. It shows how complicated tracking down a terrorist network is. Tom Clancy novels were also that way. |
haywire | 08 Sep 2018 11:54 p.m. PST |
This looks like an interesting topic but some translation would help eg: what do the following mean to- "FAUDA" FAUDA is a series on netflix imdb.com/title/tt4565380 |
SBminisguy | 10 Sep 2018 8:38 a.m. PST |
As walkabout said, I'm finding a lot of details peg the series pretty closely to the characters in the books, except his boss James Grier who is not an admiral and whom they make out as a muslim questioning his faith. I suppose they felt they needed a positive example to counterweight the jihadis they are facing. So far I find it to be quite good as an intel/espionage action series. |