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Winston Smith20 Aug 2018 12:39 p.m. PST

Gretchen Carlson, a Former Fox News Babe and former Miss America, sued Fox News and Roger Ailes for millions for sexual harassment and bullying and "enforced secret arbitration".
Over the weekend, the current Miss America accused her of bullying and intimidation. This morning, 19 former Miss Americas called on her to resign.

When the Harvey Weinstein #something scandal broke, a previously unknown to me star named Asia Argento was one of the first accusers.
Over the weekend, an underage boy (17 at the time) revealed that she had paid him $350,000 USD to hush him up over what he claimed was rape.

I am not excusing Harvey or Roger. They are first class scum of the earth, and you can throw in Kevin Spacey while you're at it too.
I am just cynically amused. Isn't that the whole purpose of Utter Drivel? Cynical amusement?
I can't wait for more. Odds are that there will be more.

Aethelflaeda was framed20 Aug 2018 12:55 p.m. PST

What part of no politics don't you understand?

Joes Shop Supporting Member of TMP20 Aug 2018 1:16 p.m. PST

The post has nothing to do with politics.

Condottiere20 Aug 2018 1:55 p.m. PST

It has everything to do with politics, and since Bill disagrees with me on everything I've ever posted, he will likely say it has nothing to do with politics. LOL

79thPA Supporting Member of TMP20 Aug 2018 2:06 p.m. PST

It's current events, but I don't see how it is politics.

Zephyr120 Aug 2018 2:09 p.m. PST

Must be a slow Drivel day… ;-)

Condottiere20 Aug 2018 2:15 p.m. PST

It's current events, but I don't see how it is politics.

It's very political these days.

Leadpusher Supporting Member of TMP20 Aug 2018 2:17 p.m. PST

Isn't everything political these days? God forbid!

Condottiere20 Aug 2018 2:20 p.m. PST

Well, I think most everything has been political sine the inception of the republic. Just saying.

Ceterman20 Aug 2018 2:40 p.m. PST

Awwww, poor poor pitiful faux opinion/entertainment "babe"…
Condottiere, I'm right there with ya.

Joes Shop Supporting Member of TMP20 Aug 2018 3:32 p.m. PST

Ok, then someone explain how this is political – how sexual harassment/molestation /rape cases are political – ?

Stryderg20 Aug 2018 4:50 p.m. PST

Because those who think it's a political topic tend to vote for one political party, while those who don't think it's political tend to vote for the other party.

I think it's just a case of the pot calling the kettle bl…oh, wait…

Cacique Caribe20 Aug 2018 5:05 p.m. PST

LOL. It's always "political" for some people when it makes the celebrities they favor look bad for whatever reason. But oddly enough, it's not "political" when the opposite is true. :)

The truth is that those same people will never understand that there are different levels of scum. Their scum-O-meter is broken or they have purposely altered theirs beyond recovery.

Some individuals are scum, even if it's between consenting adults, when it's behind the back of people they should be faithful to. But the scum rating goes up exponentially when it involves abusing a position of authority (boss to employee/intern). And then it goes up exponentially – into infinity – when it involves abusing a minor/child or defending/covering up for those who do that.

Dan

Oberlindes Sol LIC Supporting Member of TMP20 Aug 2018 6:12 p.m. PST

I agree with Cacique Caribe.

Dn Jackson Supporting Member of TMP20 Aug 2018 7:19 p.m. PST

Because, for some people everything is political….everything.

Winston Smith20 Aug 2018 7:20 p.m. PST

Good Heavens!
So do I!
grin

Google "sex is politics"

Gore Vidal, Kate Millet…

Yes. Scum is scum.

Winston Smith20 Aug 2018 7:23 p.m. PST

Cynical amusement.
Yup. This thread.

skinkmasterreturns21 Aug 2018 4:27 a.m. PST

I'm surprised this country has ever been able to function, let alone accomplish the things it has.

coopman21 Aug 2018 4:41 a.m. PST

Enjoy your stay with the Dawgs.

Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian21 Aug 2018 5:35 a.m. PST

Link on the Gretchen Carlson story: link

Silurian21 Aug 2018 6:31 a.m. PST

In my opinion, on a wargaming site, "Utter Drivel", should have at least some tangential link to um, wargaming.

Or at the very least be amusing in some light-hearted way. I like a laugh.

Sexual harassment/molestation /rape? Not a subject I care to see on this site. I can go discuss that at numerous other places. Or even in the Blue Fez if I so desire.

Roderick Robertson Fezian21 Aug 2018 9:48 a.m. PST

Their scum-O-meter is broken

For some, Scum is simply binary: A person is scum, or they aren't.

Others see scumminess as a spectrum, from "Not scummy at all", through "well, they have had some bad errors in judgement" to "Dwellers-under-rocks want nothing to do with them".

Cacique Caribe22 Aug 2018 7:43 a.m. PST

Roderick

It's like crimes. A parking ticket vs mass murder. A misdemeanor vs a felony. Hardly the same level, nor worthy of the same sentence … unless you're on Rubicun III:

YouTube link
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Dan

dapeters22 Aug 2018 1:10 p.m. PST

I am not sure one can say Asia Argento was ever unknown, at lest to us that like horror films.

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP22 Aug 2018 2:53 p.m. PST

LOL !!!! Yes, she blows the whistle on Harvey W. And justifiably so. But this whole thing about her at 37(?) bedding a 17 year old boy ! huh? Then after finding out about he was under age, she and her boyfriend Anthony Bourdain paid him to keep quiet !

Now I can see that as he was under age. But I don't think many of us when we were 17 if a similar event occurred. [Hell I'd be happy if in occurred today at 61 with someone like her !wink ] We'd certainly not complain about it. evil grin But like many things it all comes down to he wanted some fast cash. And now get his name in the news !

And of course she should have known better … But as we know this sorted type of "affair" happens very often … huh?

You have to love the hypocrisy ! From all sides, arenas, fronts, etc., etc. !

Thresher0123 Aug 2018 12:05 a.m. PST

Never heard of her before.

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP23 Aug 2018 6:33 a.m. PST

Well seems we all have heard of her & him now ! evil grin Still don't think a male should complain about that … evil grin

Howler24 Aug 2018 3:38 p.m. PST

I'm with CC and Oberlindes. Scum is scum

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