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Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian16 Aug 2018 5:29 p.m. PST

Were the games produced by the Avalon Hill Game Company your introduction to the wargaming hobby?

nsolomon9916 Aug 2018 5:32 p.m. PST

First game ever was "African Campaign" from Jedko Games.
Second game ever was "Panzerblitz" by Avalon Hill.

TMPWargamerabbit16 Aug 2018 5:34 p.m. PST

Panzerblitz in 1969 as a xmas gift. Miniatures came later in 1971…. so the answer is yes.

Tony S16 Aug 2018 5:34 p.m. PST

Yes! I remember when they were sold in department stores, and I had to choose one as a birthday present. With a ten year old's logic I chose Panzerblitz over Panzerleader (or was it the other way around?) because the back of one game had three examples of tanks, and the other had four or five. I chose the latter since obviously it was better because it had no6w tanks!

And, if I remember correctly, with a caveat this was many, many decades ago, it was $19.99 USD! Which was a lot of money!

Personal logo PaulCollins Supporting Member of TMP16 Aug 2018 5:38 p.m. PST

Tactics II, Gettysburg, and Rictofen's War, were my first wargames.

Nick Bowler16 Aug 2018 5:39 p.m. PST

Nsolomon99 +1. Except my 2nd game was Russian Campaign.

nnascati Supporting Member of TMP16 Aug 2018 5:41 p.m. PST

No, Airfix did.

Personal logo gamertom Supporting Member of TMP16 Aug 2018 5:45 p.m. PST

Tactics II was my first wargame & Gettysburg the first I got in college.

mckrok Supporting Member of TMP16 Aug 2018 5:58 p.m. PST

Yes…Panzerblitz.

Soaring Soren16 Aug 2018 6:01 p.m. PST

My first wargame purchase was Luftwaffe, when I was 9 or so. I was too young to be able to figure it out, and my dad didn't want to touch it, but it was my first taste.
Not counting green plastic Army men of course…

Winston Smith16 Aug 2018 6:03 p.m. PST

Yes. And I still remember my first game, and first disaster.
Gettysburg, 1962. Rather than "soak off" cleverly, I saw that I had 2/1 odds attacking some ridge or other with my whole army.
Yeah, I rolled "A Elim". First wargame ever. I still haven't broken even.

coopman16 Aug 2018 6:09 p.m. PST

Yes. Afrika Korps, Stalingrad and Luftwaffe were among my first experiences with wargames. And then one of my buddies introduced me to Napoleonic gaming with miniatures. It all seems like so long ago, and it was.

Buck21516 Aug 2018 6:10 p.m. PST

Yes! "Battle of the Bulge"…

Ceterman16 Aug 2018 6:29 p.m. PST

Yes. Richthofen's War. 1972. I had American Heritages' Dogfight, Battle Cry & Broadsides already, all bought in the mid-late 1960's. But Richthofen's War was my first "real" Wargame. Still have it too.

sneakgun16 Aug 2018 6:29 p.m. PST

Yes, "Waterloo."

Leadjunky16 Aug 2018 6:32 p.m. PST

No esci.

Personal logo Saber6 Supporting Member of TMP Fezian16 Aug 2018 6:34 p.m. PST

Gettysburg, then Waterloo and Anzio

skipper John16 Aug 2018 6:35 p.m. PST

Yes they did. France 1940. It was amazing! 1973.

emckinney16 Aug 2018 6:37 p.m. PST

Starship Troopers. The original.

Cyrus the Great16 Aug 2018 6:40 p.m. PST

Definitely not!

mikec26016 Aug 2018 6:40 p.m. PST

Yes. Original Gettysburg

Zeelow16 Aug 2018 6:52 p.m. PST

no

14th NJ Vol16 Aug 2018 6:52 p.m. PST

Yes Panzer Leader.

Wackmole916 Aug 2018 6:59 p.m. PST

No Airfix my brother keep his avalon hill games locked up.

Personal logo Parzival Supporting Member of TMP16 Aug 2018 7:00 p.m. PST

No. TSR was. I've owned several AH games, but only ever played Feudal and Amoeba Wars (which I did not own). The rest were either too complex to appeal to me, or too complex to appeal to my friends at the time. (I shan't count the newer Hasbro/AH games, as they're really not in the old AH style.)

USAFpilot16 Aug 2018 7:06 p.m. PST

No. Playing D&D did.

robert piepenbrink Supporting Member of TMP16 Aug 2018 7:09 p.m. PST

Afrika Corps. But four years later, some of the board game crowd showed me miniatures and I never looked back.

Lascaris16 Aug 2018 7:19 p.m. PST

AH's Waterloo was our first historical game, played in 1973 I believe. We were total noobs, I think 13 & 15 years old, and at the end of the campaign there were 2 counters left, the Old Guard and Picton's 5th Division. I was the anglo-allied forces, as always, and I eked out a win when the guard lost to Picton's forces.

jdginaz16 Aug 2018 7:20 p.m. PST

No it was SPI.

Personal logo FingerandToeGlenn Sponsoring Member of TMP16 Aug 2018 7:21 p.m. PST

Original Gettysburg. Discovered Airfix boxes two years later…and mini tanks…yay.

Sundance16 Aug 2018 7:37 p.m. PST

Well, I played with green army men. As far as wargames, my brother did actually, but yes, it was with Richthofen's War. I was 8 or 9 and I was instantly hooked.

Narratio16 Aug 2018 7:54 p.m. PST

No, figures first, Avalon Hill's "D-Day" was mu first board war game though. Ahhh, the days of youth… so wasted on the young.

dilettante Supporting Member of TMP16 Aug 2018 8:03 p.m. PST

My first game was L'An 4000(4000 A.D.) by Waddington Games. Second was Starforce by SPI, but THIRD was Starship Troopers (the original game) by Avalon Hill.

Bashytubits16 Aug 2018 8:04 p.m. PST

Yes, Gettysburg and D-Day.

dilettante Supporting Member of TMP16 Aug 2018 8:06 p.m. PST

My first game was L'An 4000(4000 A.D.) by Waddington Games. Second was Starforce by SPI, but THIRD was Starship Troopers by Avalon Hill.

darthfozzywig16 Aug 2018 8:17 p.m. PST

I had been making up rules for my green army men, ship models, etc., but my first real wargames were by AH: Gettysburg, Tactics II, and Afrika Korps.

Thresher0116 Aug 2018 8:45 p.m. PST

No, got those little green men in the dime store, and then some Airfix ones later, along with tanks, halftracks, etc..

Then, the Rat Patrol boxed model set, including sand dunes – that was cool!!!

A friend had ship models we used to push around on the carpet too. Usually boring stuff like docking, and moving out of port, since we lived near a naval base, and didn't have rules for battle, and never thought of it.

AH did have the first boardgame I ever got though – Panzerblitz. Good fun.

Found microarmor in a train store, and Tractics in a bookstore, and it was game on from then on out.

joeltks16 Aug 2018 8:59 p.m. PST

Nope. Started with AD&D. First real 'wargame' was Federation Space. Moved into historical simulations with World in Flames. Then gave A3R a turn; but stuck with WiF. First miniatures games were at DallasCon with GM homebrew rules for age of sail actions and an undersea game to recover Hitler's brain from a downed transport off of the Argentine coast.

Personal logo McKinstry Supporting Member of TMP Fezian16 Aug 2018 9:08 p.m. PST

Afrika Korps then Jutland and Blitzkrieg.

JLA10516 Aug 2018 9:15 p.m. PST

Yes – Tactics II in 1975, shortly followed by Gettysburg and Panzerblitz.

goragrad16 Aug 2018 9:16 p.m. PST

Gettysburg in the latter 60s and then Blitzkrieg.

Of course army men with the opposing 'generals' inflicting casualties on the opponents forces with rubber bands or plastic missiles (or dirt clods out side) came first, during, and after.

Miniatures didn't arrive until college.

Wargamer Blue16 Aug 2018 9:20 p.m. PST

SPI did

HansPeterB16 Aug 2018 10:00 p.m. PST

Blitzkrieg. Xmas 1968, iirc. Charles Grant and Airfix came a couple of years later.

Personal logo Schulein Supporting Member of TMP16 Aug 2018 10:09 p.m. PST

Panzerblitz and then Squad Leader

wrgmr116 Aug 2018 10:43 p.m. PST

No CnC Microarmor. Then Avalon Hill.

Korvessa16 Aug 2018 10:59 p.m. PST

AH Waterloo when I was about 8 with older brother (circa 1969).
The first one I ever owned was Panzer Blitz in 1972.
I still have both.

Patrick R17 Aug 2018 1:17 a.m. PST

They contributed heavily.

Oberlindes Sol LIC Supporting Member of TMP17 Aug 2018 1:52 a.m. PST

My slippery slope looked like this:

Army men => Checkers => Chess => Stratego => Risk => Tactics II => D&D => everything.

GatorDave Supporting Member of TMP17 Aug 2018 1:59 a.m. PST

Yes.

Luftwaffe.

warwell17 Aug 2018 2:29 a.m. PST

Yes. I reminisced about it on my blog
link

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