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Corto Maltese12 Aug 2018 3:31 a.m. PST

I've been searching through the rule book and can't find any mention of a rule about horses in close proximity to camels in Hail Caesar. I feel sure I've seen it before, but I could be mistaken. Can anyone direct me to it? Failing that I could just use some of the special rule for elephants on page 99.

JC Lira14 Aug 2018 7:36 a.m. PST

I think some games have exaggerated the notion of horses being frightened of camels. I know that there is historical precedent but I don't think Warlord thought camels to be frightening enough to unnerve horses -- not like elephants do.

Anybody ever worked around horses and camels? How do they interact IRL?

aynsley68314 Aug 2018 1:57 p.m. PST

I can see some not liking them on first sight but all horse I don't think so . Also having horses around camles for a while they would get used to them and not have any issues. So Arab or maybes Numidian Cav etc. would see them all the time and be used to them.

I believe I read somewhere Caesar in North Africa had some circus Elephants in camp so his own horse ( and infantry I think ) would get used to the sight and smell of them and not cause any issues once they got to seeing enemy elephants.

I know nothing of the hail Caesar rules so can't help on that front.

Come In Nighthawk17 Aug 2018 7:18 a.m. PST

I did a quick key-word search in my pdf copy of the Hail Caesar! rule-book for "camel" (and to be dbly-sure, "camels"). There is no special rule that I could find about the smell (or appearance, or anything else) of camels having an effect on horses. THERE IS a "tone box" on pg. 65 about "the Battle of Thymbra between the Persians and
Lydians in 547BC."

To counter… [the threat of the quality and ferocity of the Lydian cavalry] the Persians arranged their camels – probably baggage animals – in front of their troops, reasoning that the unfamiliar smell of these strange creatures would spook the Lydian horses. In the battle this is exactly what happened and Croesus was defeated and his capital Sardis captured.

That's it. Apparently, the rule writers felt an anecdote was not enough to warrant a special rule. Otherwise, camel-mounted troops are simply treated as cavalry.

Hope that helps!

Personal logo BigRedBat Sponsoring Member of TMP17 Aug 2018 9:40 a.m. PST

There are a number of historical records of Moors fighting from behind barricades of tethered camels- the smell of these seem to have frightened horses.

Come In Nighthawk17 Aug 2018 5:56 p.m. PST

Indeed, plenty of anecdotes about camels n' horses, so if one wanted a "house rule," I think many folks would be sympathetic. I am simply trying to answer the question that was actually asked:

I've been searching through the rule book and can't find any mention of a rule about horses in close proximity to camels in Hail Caesar.

Cheers!

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