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Tango0111 Aug 2018 3:17 p.m. PST

Incredible!

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robert piepenbrink Supporting Member of TMP11 Aug 2018 3:49 p.m. PST

I found it quite credible--but cute.

Thanks.

goragrad11 Aug 2018 4:50 p.m. PST

Do the Russians are doing the Ukraine on the shoestring.

M3s were a bit of a surprise, but then it hasn't been too long ago that I saw M8 Greyhounds still in service.

At any rate, aside from infantry AT, even the M3s would be a step up from a bulldozer with cast concrete armor. Work up some sort of spaced armor and even that threat could be reduced to an acceptable level.

mysteron Supporting Member of TMP12 Aug 2018 2:56 a.m. PST

I think the M24s stil have that modern look about them.

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP In the TMP Dawghouse12 Aug 2018 7:30 a.m. PST

Interesting … But based on you opponent, any AFV may be better than none.


But the T34/85, SU100 and JS-3 were pretty good in WWII and still could be useful if you enemy is not using anything more "High Tech". As was the M24, but I too was a bit surprised to see M3 and M5 Stuarts. Plus seeing the old M4 was no real surprise. But again, their opponents are not using anything much better, and are primarily for Infantry support, I believe.

Patrick R12 Aug 2018 10:16 a.m. PST

Even if they are obsolete they still retain some inherent value. If you don't have any AT weapons a Sherman or an M3 can be a dangerous opponent.

It's a bit like a .30-30 Lever action rifle, sure you can get a modern semi-auto rifle in 7.62mm, but the Lever action will still kill you.

wrgmr112 Aug 2018 10:19 a.m. PST

That T-34/85 needs a lot of service on it's diesel engine.
Looks like the M4's have been up gunned? Thoughts Gents?

Fred Cartwright12 Aug 2018 11:09 a.m. PST

That T-34/85 needs a lot of service on it's diesel engine.

The Don Cossack T34/85 was certainly making its own smoke screen!

Looks like the M4's have been up gunned?

Standard M4's upgunned with the 76mm, which Ordnance rejected during the war, which were done post war when they needed more 76mm Shermans for Korea. Same as Oddball's Shermans in Kelly's Heroes.

Narratio12 Aug 2018 8:12 p.m. PST

Notice in the opening seconds, somebody arabic looking had drilled a hole in the turret on a T34 and inserted a lanyard to fire the gun as he didn't want to be inside when it fired?

Things to make you go hmmmm…

vicmagpa112 Aug 2018 8:24 p.m. PST

he might know something.

Patrick R13 Aug 2018 2:14 a.m. PST

Could be a breech problem, maybe due to fouling, wear or a mechanical defect that vents too much gas back into the crew compartment. The fact that you are using a T-34 instead of a T55 is usually an indication of desperate measures and such situations are not conducive to keeping vintage gear in mint operating condition so they end up resorting to workarounds.

Another possible reason is that they don't want to stay in the tank for fear of being attacked by enemy missiles, there are tons of internet videos where you see troops fumbling around and try to stay away from anything that might become a targeting spot for the enemy.

As for the Chaffee and M3 tanks they are generally light enough to be towed by regular trucks and towing vehicles, but also look the part of a tank, a win-win for nations with limited budgets and logistic capacity.

Marc33594 Supporting Member of TMP13 Aug 2018 6:06 a.m. PST

Of the post war "up guns" for the Sherman I always found the Chilean tanks to be most interesting. The Israeli"s up gunned them with the 60mm Hyper Velocity Medium Support gun!

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Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP In the TMP Dawghouse13 Aug 2018 11:43 a.m. PST

Notice in the opening seconds, somebody arabic looking had drilled a hole in the turret on a T34 and inserted a lanyard to fire the gun as he didn't want to be inside when it fired?
Yeah, I noticed that … certainly somewhere in the Mid East. Where they tend to be very "imaginative" in some cases while in combat. However, as the saying goes "There is a thin line between bravery and foolishness." … This my be an example of that.

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