"AWI churches: stained glass windows?" Topic
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Winston Smith | 11 Aug 2018 5:47 a.m. PST |
TMP link The consensus seems to be "no". I have the Sarissa 1/56 Church. I'm already kicking around getting pews and pulpit from Noble Knight. I'm wondering if any churches in the AWI would have had stained glass windows. I'm inclined to think not, but a free download… Besides the religious reason, was there even an industry in the colonies to support it? Two parts to this thread, really. 1. Would stained glass windows be appropriate for AWI, specifically New England? 2. Was there an industry to supply them? This also brings up the question of whether they were shipped already assembled, or made on site. In any event, they're FREE! I've dealt several times with Things From the Basement. |
Memento Mori | 11 Aug 2018 7:06 a.m. PST |
Stained lass manufacturing in America ( USA) did not begin until 1843. There woud have been imported windows but at a great cost. Use in America even after 1843 depends on denomination as much as settlement. "Free" churches such as Congrgationalists, Quakers Presbyterian, Christian, Dunkers, etc would not have stained glass due to their tendencies for "plain" decoration. The established Church of England miht have stained lass in their larer city churches that cold in places br approachin the 75-100 year mark . There were not enouh Catholic churches to matter Painted glass may have been around but as thereare very fewexamples it is imossible tosay again how wide spread this was |
Rudysnelson | 11 Aug 2018 7:14 a.m. PST |
They would have been very rare in rural churches during the American Civil War era. The congregations were not large enough to afford them. I know more about churches in the southeast rather than the northeast. Even among urban churches, the real effort to put stain glass into them seem to be 1880-1900. There were exceptions like New Orleans. So for the American Revolution era, I would say they would be rare as well. |
dantheman | 11 Aug 2018 11:19 a.m. PST |
Short answer, no. The few we still have here that the Brits didn't burn definitely did not have them. At least not in NJ. |
robert piepenbrink | 11 Aug 2018 1:30 p.m. PST |
I'm with Redblack. Keep heading south, Winston. In Maryland and Virginia, maybe. Just possibly in New York City and Philadelphia, or the coastal cities in the Carolinas. In Puritan New England they wouldn't touch the popish things, and in the Presbyterian west, the not only wouldn't have them, but couldn't have afforded them anyway. |
Florida Tory | 11 Aug 2018 2:15 p.m. PST |
Apparently, not until the mid-19th century. Good summary here that expands upon Redblack's post: link Rick |
miniMo | 11 Aug 2018 2:59 p.m. PST |
As linked in the linked thread from the OP, the only one I've come across is the Old Dutch Church in Kingston NY which had coats of arms stained glass when the second church was built in 1680. These windows presumably would have been lost when the British fired the church in retaliation after Saratoga in 1777. link |
DHautpol | 14 Aug 2018 6:31 a.m. PST |
A look a church architecture in England during this period and earlier will also give some clues. The older medieval churches tended to have stained glass, assuming it hadn't been smashed by the Puritans during and after the Civil Wars as 'papist idolatry'. Many of the Wren churches built in London after the Great Fire do not have stained glass and the same is true of Queen Anne period churches. I would guess that this style of architecture and limited decoration would have carried over to America as the settlers seem to have had similar, or stronger, Presbyterian/Low Church beliefs to those prevailing in England at the time. Such stained glass that is seen from this period tends towards benefactors' coats of arms or civic displays. This is a personal thought, but I think the trend towards more 'spiritual' designs in England came in with the Victorian Gothic revival and what was then seen as appropriate and fitting to the setting. |
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