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haywire04 Aug 2018 8:15 a.m. PST

What kind of vehicles are common in the Middle East?

I see small vans, mopeds, scooters, bikes, tut-tuts? but I am not sure what companies.

Also any game companies making ME vehicles? in 15mm?

Come In Nighthawk04 Aug 2018 8:15 a.m. PST

Am just getting serious about learning to play "Hail Caesar!" Trying to read the basic book closely, and see if there is a "prohibition" on what I will term "mixed divisions" in the "Hail Caesar!" rules??

To begin with, the "explanatory" picture to accompany the text on pages 8 & 9 clearly shows Roman cavalry in very discreet "divisions" posted on the flanks of a Late Roman "army." It even shows the BAGGAGE as being "hived off" in a separate "division," but with some infantry units (or unit) as "guards."

In contradistinction to that "visual" on 8 & 9, there is one sentence on page 23 (at least that ONE that I could find), where an "example [division]" is said to consist of its commander, some "heavy" and some "skirmishing" infantry, an artillery piece, and notably for my question, a "cavalry unit." Thus, this would,as it were, "contradict" the example picture I referred to already.

In addition, on page 114, there is the "Order of Battle" for the "case study" battle of Kadesh. There, the "OB" shows both Hittite and Egyptian divisions as generally un-mixed, like the Late Roman "visual;" chariots in some, infantry in others. However, there is also the "exception" of the Egyptian "Amun" division, which mixes chariots, guard infantry, and "cavalry scouts."

On the whole then, "I" would say that the "visual" on pages 8 & 9 should be taken as only ONE example of how to organize and army???? The text then should be taken as follows: a) the "rule" for organizing "divisions" is shown on page 23; b) the OB on page 114 is an "example" and alternative to the "visual" at the beginning of the book…

Thanks in advance for any comments and thoughts! grin

haywire04 Aug 2018 8:43 a.m. PST

Ah The Bug!!!

Vigilant04 Aug 2018 11:56 a.m. PST

Pretty much any European or Japanese vehicle from the cheapest to the top end, depending on where you are looking. There is no indigenous motor industry in the Middle East. Big Mercedes are popular as taxis. Pretty much anything from the 1970s onwards, your usual Toyotas, Fords, Nissans, VW, Peugeot, Renault, Fiat cars, vans and pick-ups.

Come In Nighthawk04 Aug 2018 6:42 p.m. PST

BLEEP

the [fricking] Bug!!!

Still wondering about "divisions" in "Hail Caesar!" Not really interested in Mid-east mopeds!!

Codsticker05 Aug 2018 11:03 p.m. PST

The picture is just an example as is the description. The authors would expect you to make divisions that were appropriate for the army/conflict/period your are gaming. Given that, you may have mixed divisions as you see fit.

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