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Matsukaze27 Jul 2018 3:53 a.m. PST

It is said the Chevau legers took a helmet of carabiniers' style, but any difference between them? I only know there are sealskin turbans on the helmets of Chevau legers.

Porthos27 Jul 2018 6:09 a.m. PST

Here is a great site for all uniforms present at Waterloo: link

You can see that the helmets of the Carabiniers are metal, while the helmets of the Chevaux-Legeres have the "turbans".
Hope this helps !

Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP27 Jul 2018 8:09 a.m. PST

It so much depends on the scale and what you are trying to do.

If, say, in 28mm you want to convert Perry plastic Carabinier heads to Line Lancers ….easy. Add the turban in Greenstuff or some such, few seconds work. Black leather peak, rest in brass. Warlord do them already of course. Lancers to Carabiniers much harder and, in metal, maybe impossible, realistically.


The Carabiniers' helmet did have a more elegant shape to it….but that will hardly show in most wargame scales


Tell us more. What prompted the question and what are you planning? Folk here can be really helpful


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Matsukaze27 Jul 2018 5:21 p.m. PST

Actually I am planning to paint Perry carabinier as Westphalian cuirassier. But my friend told me the helmet of Westphalian cuirassier is the style of French chevau leger, not carabinier. Any friends know which conversion is better?

Auld Minis ter27 Jul 2018 8:56 p.m. PST

Matsukaze: I did some simple but I believe accurate conversion of the Perry French heavy horse plastics to Westphalian 2nd Cuirassiers (the 1st is totally different)
you can see here: link

Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP28 Jul 2018 1:46 a.m. PST

That is a very interesting conversion shown above. It is a very good point that the Cuirassier helmet works better than the "Minerva" style of the Carabiniers. The Elegant look involves that backward slope typical of Greek antiquity. The lancers/ cuirassier/1st Chasseurs Royalist helmets are all more upright. Officers tended to the expensive look of course!


More work to create the comb instead of the horsetail, but the end result is very convincing.

Marc the plastics fan28 Jul 2018 5:49 a.m. PST

Auld Minis. Nice conversions. But can I check on those orange saddle clothes please? I know the trumpeters did use orange, as per their tunic, but the other pics I find show blue saddle cloths for the troopers etc. Just checking as they are on my 1812 list to do and so any sources are appreciated.

Thanks

Marc

Matsukaze28 Jul 2018 6:19 a.m. PST

Marc, the saddle cloths for cuirassier troopers are orange, just the same as the trumpeters'. The blue ones are for their officers.

Matsukaze28 Jul 2018 6:23 a.m. PST

Auld Minis, excellent conversion! The conversion for 1st cuirassier rgt can be harder. I hate the cutting work.

von Winterfeldt28 Jul 2018 10:34 p.m. PST

great conversions

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