"Egyptian Krupp Loading Procedure?" Topic
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Nick Stern  | 16 Jul 2018 8:11 p.m. PST |
What was the procedure for loading a 19th Century breech loading cannon? In this particular case a Krupp with an Egyptian crew. I am trying to figure out the placement of the artillery crew around the gun. How did it differ, if at all, from the crew for a muzzle loader of the same period. Did the crew still require a rammer? I am assuming it no longer required a ventsman. |
| Ramming | 17 Jul 2018 6:19 a.m. PST |
Watch Gordon of Khartoum, there are a few short clips of Egyptian gunners loading what I think is a Krupp 4pdr with the sliding Wesener wedge breech mechanism. |
| Nick Stern | 17 Jul 2018 6:54 a.m. PST |
You mean I need flaming torches to fire it ;) |
| Ramming | 17 Jul 2018 1:08 p.m. PST |
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| Nick Stern | 17 Jul 2018 2:59 p.m. PST |
Ramming, seriously, you seem to know quite a bit, like the name of the breech mechanism. Did they still need to sponge out the barrel on the Krupp? I'm pretty sure this was before the use of shell casings, but I could be wrong, so were the projectile and the charge loaded separately or in one piece in 1884? |
| Major Bloodnok | 17 Jul 2018 4:37 p.m. PST |
looking at period prints of Prussian gunners 1870 on, it seems that that the crew are behind the gun. 1870 images seem to show a crewman with the cleaning rod/rammer, but I don't see a spong bucket, so it may be used just to ram the charge up the breech. Later images of crews on 1891 and 1896 Krupps don't show anyone holding any tools. |
| Royal Marine | 22 Jul 2018 3:02 a.m. PST |
Any breech loading weapon needs cleaning after firing but I doubt a rammer with sponge would be present for a Krupp gun. But then again I'm Infantry and not a gunner! |
| Ramming | 25 Jul 2018 3:37 a.m. PST |
I honestly don't know. The lead sheathing on the shell would probably scour the barrel but the breech would have got pretty fouled pretty quickly. |
| AICUSV | 26 Jul 2018 6:28 p.m. PST |
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| Nick Stern | 27 Jul 2018 9:02 a.m. PST |
AICUSV, thanks! Great reference source! It definitely looks like I'll need to add a sponge man to my Krupp crew. |
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