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Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP02 Jul 2018 8:53 p.m. PST

"It is the 'Batman syndrome': the hero refuses to kill, he systematically saves his enemy who escapes and kills new victims until the hero catches up with him, and so on". Causeur magazine.

"These crimes will continue so long as the Republic leaves the enemy in peace". Ivan Riofoul, Le Figaro.

In the end, there might be still a region called "Europe", but it may no longer enfold European culture…."
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Lion in the Stars03 Jul 2018 1:15 a.m. PST

The problem, for the Americans, is how do you fight a war of ideas without sacrificing freedom of speech, of association, and all the other things that this country was founded on?

28mm Fanatik03 Jul 2018 7:25 a.m. PST

This is a bad analogy because it's not black and white. Terrorism isn't one villain like the Joker whom The Dark Knight can simply kill and the problem will all go away. It's a clash between radical Islam and (not Christianity as some would have us believe) and western liberal secularism.

We can eliminate our immediate enemies, but they play the long game and others will take their place. Patience is the only effective way to fight such a war.

Personal logo Cacique Caribe Supporting Member of TMP03 Jul 2018 10:12 a.m. PST

Sounds like some people have a problem killing the cobra that IS already biting some of them and their children, because they're worried that the cobra may have left behind little ones of its own that MIGHT come back to haunt them years later.

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deephorse03 Jul 2018 11:13 a.m. PST

That article is complete and utter tosh, and anyone with half an ounce of critical thinking ability would realise that. As someone that lives in Europe, and more especially Britain (unlike some of you on this thread) I don't recognise the picture of Europe painted by the author. Some people need to get out more and look at the world other than through a computer screen.

Oberlindes Sol LIC Supporting Member of TMP03 Jul 2018 11:29 a.m. PST

The problem, for the Americans, is how do you fight a war of ideas without sacrificing freedom of speech, of association, and all the other things that this country was founded on?

We haven't done it perfectly well, but we have succeeded and have eventually restored and extended civil rights each time.

For example, we crushed the slaveowner ideology militarily by 1865 and brought basic civil rights, at least de jure, to millions who had been deprived of them, admittedly at temporary cost to civil rights, such as suspension of habeas corpus pendente bellum. We have been fighting a slaveowner insurgency off and on since then.

We crushed fascism militarily by 1945 and established or re-established societies with private ownership of property and democratic governments and norms in much of the world. At the same time, we interned Americans of Japanese ancestry and stole their lands and property -- but for some reason, not Americans of German or Italian ancestry.

We fought two major wars and many other operations to stop the spread of communism and eventually at least facilitated, if not caused, its collapse in the USSR. Not all of those operations were legal or even beneficial to anyone. We managed to retain our civil rights throughout, not perfectly, not always, but checks and balances to redress governmental overreach have generally worked.

Personal logo SBminisguy Supporting Member of TMP03 Jul 2018 8:04 p.m. PST

For example, we crushed the slaveowner ideology militarily by 1865

Not to mention the US Navy's Africa Squadron anti-slavery patrols and raids to help suppress the African slave trade from 1820 through the Civil War ((props to the UK for starting it).

Lion in the Stars04 Jul 2018 12:51 p.m. PST

Too bad slavery *in Africa* never got crushed. I mean, how do you break the idea of "if they're not of my tribe, they're not human"?

Personal logo Cacique Caribe Supporting Member of TMP04 Jul 2018 1:04 p.m. PST

Lion

Africa and many parts of Asia too.

Dan

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