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Winston Smith09 Jun 2018 8:19 a.m. PST

Should I use Continental figures, or Mad Anthony Wayne Legion of the United States figures?

It's not exactly as if I'm looking for an excuse to get the MAW figures…

robert piepenbrink Supporting Member of TMP09 Jun 2018 9:09 a.m. PST

Don't let me discourage you from buying the MAW figures. The Rebellion hits the same year as Fallen Timbers so the uniform should be right. But remember that the US Army as such is just about non-existent at this time--four understrength "sub-legions spread all over the frontier.

You're mostly looking at militia either way. If I were gaming it out, the Whiskey Rebels would be about what you'd use for King's Mountain--hunting shirts with a mix of tricorns and slouch hats--and a few officers who have brought out their AWI uniforms. The Federal militia/volunteers would be in militia uniforms--about half way to War of 1812 social units--at least partly so I could tell the sides apart, and regulars would be very rare.

Winston Smith09 Jun 2018 9:34 a.m. PST

Old Glory order coming up…

jurgenation Supporting Member of TMP09 Jun 2018 11:03 a.m. PST

definitely waynes legion..they look so cool.

historygamer11 Jun 2018 9:30 a.m. PST

Obviously a "what if?" since there was almost no fighting and the revolt melted away when the troops showed up.

There is a really cool interactive "Whiskey Rebellion" experience at Mount Vernon. Worth seeing and partaking in as a participant.

Winston Smith11 Jun 2018 10:14 a.m. PST

Obviously a "what if?"

Well, yes. grin
We also intend to make the Yankee Pennamite Wars ghastly bloodbaths. Damn those Connecticut interlopers!

AICUSV14 Jun 2018 3:52 p.m. PST

The painting of Washington reviewing the troops t Cumberland, Maryland, (painted 1795) shows troops in cocked hats, top hats, and Legion type helmets.
This is a period that has long interested me as there are so many "what ifs" that could come out of it. As there was a chance that the Spanish may have gotten involved. The British may have used this to try and claim parts of the western US. As well as the situation with the Native Americans.
Ive not had much luck in identifying the troops involved, there some regulars (at least 10) and I believe some members of the 1st Regiment from Philadelphia (these would have been uniformed). New Jersey, Maryland and Virginia also supplied troops but as yet I haven't identified them. I suspect that the 1st City Troop of Light Cavalry of Philadelphia would have been involved as Washington did have a relationship with this outfit.
Link is for colors carried by Philadelphia troops.
link

AICUSV15 Jun 2018 1:09 p.m. PST

Just found this site that has some useful info about New Jersey troops.
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This maybe of interest Request for artillery by Hamilton

The Virginia and Maryland militias need 6 six-pounders, 3 three-pounders, and 2 howitzers. The Pennsylvania militia needs 6 six-pounders, 4 three-pounders, and 3 howitzers. The Jersey militia needs 3 six-pounders, 3 three-pounders, and one howitzer.

AICUSV15 Jun 2018 4:15 p.m. PST

I've come up with this;
New Jersey
4 Regiments of Infantry – it would appear that at least the first two Regiments were uniformed.
Cavalry Commanded by Major James Dunhamnand included Isaac Alston's Troop No. 1
And a Corps of Artillerists and Engineers

Pennsylvania
1st Regiment Philadelphia Militia commanded by Colonel Francis Gurney – to include the 1st and 2nd Grenadier Companies

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