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Erzherzog Johann08 Jun 2018 2:37 p.m. PST

David Hollin previously said this about "hechtgrau", or pike grey:

"It is a blue of varying shades getting steadily darker across the period … but it should be a deep blue with a hint of grey in it. So, the colour is hechtgrau [as opposed to Hungarian blue], but in a darker shade by 1809."

Has anyone worked out a good way of replicating this colour using Vallejo paints (as I have lots of these and none of anything else)? Because David Hollin noted that "a printing problem at Osprey made the 1809 Moravian FW's trousers come out a rather bizarre purple", I'm left unsure about what it really should look like – ie I think I would need an illustration before I started speculating too much about what would be right.

I see that the estimable 'Loki', in his indispensable chart of Vallejo facing colour solutions link uses 'Pale Blue 906' for light Pike Grey but there is no call for the darker shade amongst the regimental facing colours. Has anyone come up with either an illustration showing the true shade or a solution that fits with what we know, and which they'd be willing to share?

Thanks in advance,
John

rmaker08 Jun 2018 10:44 p.m. PST

I use Delta Ceramcoat North Sea Blue.

von Winterfeldt08 Jun 2018 10:45 p.m. PST

very difficult to say – Hechtgrau should be as facing colour of regiment 48 – in case you look at different contemporary colour charts – it is changing, here a chart from 1808 – in 1815 it is more like Loki is showing it – in 1807/08 – the Hechgrau is more of a violet grey.

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von Winterfeldt08 Jun 2018 10:50 p.m. PST

comes out too small

maybe this is better

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4th Cuirassier13 Jun 2018 5:36 a.m. PST

Just guess. You aren't modelling lighting conditions accurately, so the results will not reproduce the original colour.

Erzherzog Johann13 Jun 2018 11:03 p.m. PST

True. At the moment I'm leaning towards using Grey Blue (70.943 (061)) over Field Blue (70.964 (058)), but I'll experiment a bit first. I think I might want the Jägers slightly greyer and lighter (older uniforms) and the ADKL (2nd Battalion for starters) in a slightly darker bluer shade as their uniforms would have been new, so maybe the above option for the ADKL and a greyer 2nd coat for the Jägers.

Thanks for the input everyone.

John

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