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Vincent the Librarian Inactive Member06 Jun 2018 3:10 p.m. PST

From CNN

"According to the sources, Trudeau pressed Trump on how he could justify the tariffs as a "national security" issue. In response, Trump quipped to Trudeau, "Didn't you guys burn down the White House?" referring to the War of 1812."

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Blame Canada! Blame Canada!

Vincent the Librarian Inactive Member06 Jun 2018 3:16 p.m. PST

Follow up from CNN:

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rustymusket Supporting Member of TMP06 Jun 2018 3:29 p.m. PST

We live in interesting times, darn it all.

Dynaman878906 Jun 2018 4:14 p.m. PST

Any miniatures related to this? War of 1812 ones don't count.

Fred Mills06 Jun 2018 5:07 p.m. PST

Canadians also started the Civil War, traded the Babe to the Yankees, created the Dust Bowl, made Ishtar, tampered with James Dean's brakes, and – for no reason save sheer devilment – invented scale creep. Wayne Gretzky and Steve Nash were Saskatoon-made robots; Dan Akroyd and Seth Rogen, malicious chemistry experiments.

Also, they weight the dice to roll sneaky sixes, the clever Bleeped texts, and their off-board flank attacks always arrive on time, ever since they sold their souls to the Great Manitou.

So, if you're a 15mm or 28mm president, never invade Canada.

Winston Smith06 Jun 2018 6:37 p.m. PST

They also invented the Slobbovia Diplomacy variant.

Glengarry506 Jun 2018 7:21 p.m. PST

It wasn't us! The British troops who burned the White House came from the sea, Chesapeake Bay, not Canada!
Although sometimes I wish we had…

Redblack06 Jun 2018 11:20 p.m. PST

Mr Trump may like this song commemorating the event

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Personal logo Ironwolf Supporting Member of TMP Inactive Member07 Jun 2018 1:50 a.m. PST

And why is this even posted on the miniature page for war of 1812?? ITs strange how the media only reports part of the story with little or not facts.

For anyone who actually follows the facts, they'd know this wasn't a all of a sudden knee jerk reaction on the part of Trump. China steel & aluminum imports to the USA were so cheap it has shut down the US steel industry. Due to the huge trade imbalance between China & USA. Trump placed 25 percent tariff on steel and 10 percent tariff on aluminum imports on China. To get around this, China started shipping their steel & aluminum to Canada. Then Canada was sending it to the USA, bypassing the new tariff. Back in April news media reported Trump and Trudeau discussed this. Trudeau said Canada would put more effort into stopping it. Its now June and so far nothing has been done, so China steel & aluminum is being sent to Canada. Then Canadian companies are reselling and shipping it to the USA, by passing the new tariff. Its very clear, Trump is putting Trudeau on notice. If Canada is not going to deal with the problem, then this is what will happen. Canada will have to start paying a higher tariff for shipping China steel & aluminum into the USA.

Some of my relatives have already been called back to work, so they are pretty happy with Trump.

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Yet again, I ask why is this even posted in the war of 1812 miniatures topic??? From someone who has made only TWO posts since they signed up to this page back in 2011.

goragrad07 Jun 2018 5:46 a.m. PST

National security is one of those big tent items that can cover all sorts of activity…

davbenbak Supporting Member of TMP Inactive Member07 Jun 2018 7:24 a.m. PST

Yep, probably should have been posted in the lounge.

Winston Smith07 Jun 2018 8:04 a.m. PST

TMP would be a (slightly) happier place if some people could stop with the "Sister! Sister! Billy is passing notes to Suzy!" stuff.

I have no problem with where anything is posted.

Vincent the Librarian Inactive Member08 Jun 2018 7:42 a.m. PST

I am sorry Ironwolf for hurting your feelings.

It was an 1812 topic- probably the most news coverage of the War of 1812 in many years, and since it was a dump on Canada, very amusing.

Winston Smith08 Jun 2018 1:53 p.m. PST

Mark Steyn was talking about ex pat War of 1812 reenactors… re-enacting the event in Rush today.

Personal logo Ironwolf Supporting Member of TMP Inactive Member10 Jun 2018 4:40 a.m. PST

No hurt feelings, just asking why this was not posted in the lounge, which is for political discussions. Cause that's what you posted, political news. Nothing in your post referenced the War of 1812. The article tries to reference Canada, but in 1812 there was no Canada as a country. The four provinces did not unite until 1860's. They were British subjects during the war of 1812. If I remember right, they did not formalize their independence until 1982. lol So a dump on Canada again should be posted in the Lounge. Most news coverage of the War of 1812? Also very dubious excuse.


As for "Sister! Sister! Billy is passing notes to Suzy!"
Who did I go tattle to?? No one. This is why political crap is posted in the lounge. So idiots don't start arguments with such childish comments. So to keep the hobby part of this message board a "happier place." I asked why this was not posted in the Lounge where it clearly belonged.

Personal logo Ironwolf Supporting Member of TMP Inactive Member10 Jun 2018 4:49 a.m. PST

Vincent the Librarian,

Now this is Canada the real threat. lol
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Codsticker10 Jun 2018 6:39 p.m. PST

To get around this, China started shipping their steel & aluminum to Canada. Then Canada was sending it to the USA, bypassing the new tariff. Back in April news media reported Trump and Trudeau discussed this. Trudeau said Canada would put more effort into stopping it. Its now June and so far nothing has been done, so China steel & aluminum is being sent to Canada. Then Canadian companies are reselling and shipping it to the USA, by passing the new tariff. Its very clear, Trump is putting Trudeau on notice. If Canada is not going to deal with the problem, then this is what will happen. Canada will have to start paying a higher tariff for shipping China steel & aluminum into the USA.

I would be interested to see the article in which this was printed.

Vincent the Librarian Inactive Member11 Jun 2018 2:40 p.m. PST

Ironwolf: LOL!!

Canadian backstabbers!

Personal logo Bowman Supporting Member of TMP12 Jun 2018 7:35 p.m. PST

To get around this, China started shipping their steel & aluminum to Canada. Then Canada was sending it to the USA, bypassing the new tariff. Back in April news media reported Trump and Trudeau discussed this.

Please supply sources for this.

"As it lobbied to exempt Canadian products from Donald Trump's new tariffs, the Trudeau government had to contend with a fear on the American side that Chinese steel and aluminum products were getting into the United States through Canada, according to a senior government official."

"Trudeau is said to have told the president that Canadian steel and aluminum workers would be surprised to hear that their products are actually Chinese. He also reminded Trump that Canadian steel and aluminum are used to build American tanks and fighter jets.

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Major Bloodnok18 Jun 2018 3:44 a.m. PST

Funny how "someone" forgot how US troops burned York Canada which lead to the Burning of D.C.

Vincent the Librarian Inactive Member18 Jun 2018 7:17 p.m. PST

The burning of York was mostly due tot eh troops going out of control when the British Fort's ammo blew up (on accident or on purpose we do not know), killing the US commander, Gen. Pike (Pike's Peak) and caused enough chaos that the USA troops went uncontrolled.

Vincent the Librarian Inactive Member22 Jun 2018 12:17 p.m. PST

Now you Canadians are smuggling our shoes!

Vincent the Librarian Inactive Member06 Jul 2018 8:36 a.m. PST

From the NYT about the Trump Baby Blimp in London:

"Nigel Farage, the former leader of the anti-immigrant U.K. Independence Party and a Trump supporter, criticized the mayor's decision to approve the blimp, saying on Twitter that the balloon would make London look ridiculous. "This is the biggest insult to a sitting US President ever," he wrote."

"Aidan Kerr, a media officer for the Scottish Labour Party, begged to differ, retorting on Twitter, "We literally burned down the White House in 1814."

See- the War of 1812 still resonates!

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