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Terry3726 May 2018 7:10 p.m. PST

I am working on some figures for Butler's Rangers, but am not sure if the officer should wear a tricorn or a cap like the men. Perhaps it was a matter of choice?

Anyone have anything finite or a good reference?

Thanks,

Terry

Winston Smith Supporting Member of TMP26 May 2018 8:13 p.m. PST

I don't think the famous Butler's Rangers cap was worn until well after the end of the war. They probably wore a cocked hat or a slouch hat. And so would the officers.

cavcrazy27 May 2018 5:26 a.m. PST

I would think that the officers wouldn't want to stand out from their men.No need to be any more of a target.

Redblack27 May 2018 8:16 a.m. PST

Trust me you don't wear a tricorn or even a cocked hat in the woods particularly when wet. These re enactors look good and since none of us were there to see wat wa actually worn they may be as close a we can get.

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Winston Smith Supporting Member of TMP27 May 2018 10:56 a.m. PST

I have never been one to believe that if reenactors wear something, that settles the question.

Redblack27 May 2018 11:30 a.m. PST

Given the researh they an the smilarities they show with perio art their "representaton" will be as close as anthing we can find today. No question can be ever "settled" , for eample, even when there is photographic evidence for more modern dress , there will be plenty of exceptions and contradictons. We are looking at how inividuals chose to dress themselves in terms of regulations and issues like supply, avalability ,weather and simple individualism.

nnascati Supporting Member of TMP27 May 2018 5:23 p.m. PST

Did Butler's Rangers exist AFTER the AWI??

Redblack27 May 2018 10:53 p.m. PST

Not as a unique unit as they were disbanded in 1784 and were given land grants in the Niagara region of Upper Canada that later became Lincoln County The Lincoln Militia was formed in 1788 with John Butler as the first commanding officer Its ranks were filled mainly by ex Butler's Rangers. John's sons Thomas and Andrew were junior officers in 1788

The Lincoln Militia foughtin the war of 1812 24 years after its founding date Around 60 former Rangers served in the War of 1812

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Terry3728 May 2018 7:27 p.m. PST

Thanks all, some good food for thought.

Terry

historygamer28 May 2018 7:35 p.m. PST

I think those hats may be a hot mess. I don't recognize the unit. Can you provide a link as it is not the Butler's unit I know.

Redblack28 May 2018 8:18 p.m. PST

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historygamer29 May 2018 9:28 a.m. PST

Umm, not what I would consider a reputable unit. I'll try to post a link to a better one.

Terry3729 May 2018 9:31 a.m. PST

Here's he link to Leffert's plate.

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Terry

historygamer30 May 2018 3:39 a.m. PST

Oh man that has been discredited for many decades.

Virginia Tory30 May 2018 6:52 a.m. PST

Yeah, the giant brass plate, apart from being heavy, would be a real "hey, shoot me!" incentive. Not very likely for a formation whose forte was raiding and unconventional warfare.

historygamer30 May 2018 9:18 a.m. PST

Likely they wore the standard Loyalist issue clothing. I seem to recall that the most credible reenactment unit says they are uncertain about a lot of their clothing, including facing colors.

historygamer30 May 2018 9:20 a.m. PST

Troiani shows them in green faced white, which I have seen on one of the unit webpages.

historygamer31 May 2018 3:36 a.m. PST

Also shows the ranger wearing an uncocked hat.

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