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Edwulf Inactive Member22 May 2018 6:18 p.m. PST

Their battle honors are listed as …
Otrante
Carascal
Lerida
Viterbe

But at Lerida I have Suchets army there with no Isenbourg regiment. So where were they? Whose command where they under? And what are these actions they fought at?

Edwulf Inactive Member22 May 2018 6:22 p.m. PST

Oops. Dodgy connection? Or are we required to post in triplicate now.

Prince of Essling23 May 2018 1:25 a.m. PST

Regiment d'Isembourg (in 1811 renamed to 2e Regiment Etrangers)
11 Battles: 1807 – Calabre, 1808 – Capri, 1809 – Mitoya, 1810 – Otrante, Carascal, Lerida, and Viterbe, 1811 – Castelmare, 1812 – Gaete, 1813 – Marinella and Muhlbach
Colonels: 1805 – Prince d'Isembourg, 1807 – O'Meara, 1808 – Stieler de Landoville, 1811 – Barre, 1812 – Meijer, 1813 – Bentzel

from: link

Le Breton Inactive Member23 May 2018 3:42 a.m. PST

The listed engagements, especailly those in Spain, were not so much "battles", but locations at which the regiment fought, typically as part of anti-partisan operations.

Service Record
from October 1807 : 3 battalions with the (French) Army of Naples, Calabria anti-insurgency campaign
October 1808 : at least 1 voltiguer company engaged in the capture of Capri
Late 1809 : 4th battalion raised and sent to Spain, brigaded with the 2e bataillon du régiment de Prusse (another unit formed by the prince d'Isembourg) and assigned to anti-partisan duty in Navarre
July 1810 : 4th battalion in action at Carrascal against Mina's partisans
August 1810 : 4th battalion distributed on garrison duites
November 1810 : the regiment is re-organized as 6 battalions (each of 6 companies) : 3 in Naples, 2 on Corfu, 1 in Spain
February 1811 : 4th battalion is ordered back to France, then Italy
June 1811 : the (French) Army of Naples disbanded and the regiment assigned to garrison duty: 4 battalions become part of the Observation Corps of Central Italy, 2 are on Corfu
August 1811 : renamed 2e régiment étranger
Spring 1813 : élite companies of the regiment were combined to form a single elite battalion for the Army of Italy, seeing combat at Mühlbach in the Tyrol in August

Officcer casualties in Spain
lieutenant Torelli : killed 16 June 1810 near Carrascal
chef de bataillon Dehons : mortally wounded 27 July 1810 combat at Carrascal
lieutenant Delonlay : killed 27 July 1810 combat at Carrascal
lieutenant adjudant-major Crova : wounded 27 July 1810 combat at Carrascal
lieutenant Rivarol : wounded 27 July 1810 combat at Carrascal
lieutenant adjudant-major Crova : wounded 11 August 1810 near Lérida *
capitiane Rizzardi : wounded 16 August 1810 bear Bilbao
lieutenant Lieben : assassinated 24 December 1810 near Salinas
lieutenant Neuforges : assassinated 24 December 1810 near Salinas

* this is not the Siege of Lérida from 29 April to 13 May 1810 undertaken by Suchet

The listed engagements are not exactly *battle honors" as the French conceived them (major battles or captures of cities, almost always as part of an army commanded by Napoléon in person). French "battle honors" are typically thought of as the list of inscriptions in a model 1812 flag (which the 2e étrangere did receive – but with no inscriptions).

1807 – Calabre (i.e. Calabria – southern part of Italy)
October 1808 – Capri (the island, gulf of Naples)
October 1809 – Mîtoya (???, appers to have been a village near Naples)
May 1810 – Otrante (Otranto, port on the "heel" of the Italian "boot")
June/July 1810 – Carascal (Carrascal, in Salamanca province in northwest Spain)
August 1810 – Lérida (Lleida, western Catalonia)
November 1810 – Viterbe (Viterbo, north of Rome)
October 1811 – Castelmare (Castellammare di Stabia, near Naples)
July 1812 – Gaëte (port/fotress midway between Rome and Naples)
October 1813 – Marinella (near Rome)
October 1813 – Mühlbach (Tyrol)

Edwulf Inactive Member23 May 2018 4:01 a.m. PST

Cheers gents! Top work.

davbenbak Supporting Member of TMP23 May 2018 9:21 a.m. PST

According to the linked site the 4th etrangers were at Rolicia and Vimerio but I've never seen them listed on any OOB.

Le Breton Inactive Member23 May 2018 5:07 p.m. PST

davbenbak,

I do not know to which regiment that list of battles applies. For 1808 and 1809, for the régiment de Prusse ….

1er bataillon du régiment de Prusse (devenu 4e régiment étranger) – chef de bataillon Carl-Gustav-Magnus von Lagerström (1763-ca.1825)
--- From January 1808, attached to the 3rd division of Moncey's observation corps
--- Saw action at Madrid in May 1808 during the revolt
--- Part of the offensive toward Valencia in June 1808
--- In late July 1808, assigned to garrison duty at Vitoria
--- In 1809, assigned to garrison duty at Burgos

During this period, the 2nd and 3rd battalions garrisoned Flushing.

Officer casualties in Iberia 1808-1809
--- capitaine Marconnay wounded 3 May 1808 during the insurrection in Madrid
--- sous-lieutenant Schuster wounded 3 May 1808 during the insurrection in Madrid
--- lieutenant Wolff wounded 12 September 1808 while escorting prisoners to from Vitoria to Pampelune
--- sous-lieutenant Schuster mortally wounded 10 January 1809 while on a reconnaissance (location not known)
--- lieutenant Hautal wounded 29 March 1809 near Oporto in Portugal (apparently on detached service)

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