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Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian02 May 2018 6:14 p.m. PST

The bloodiest two-day battle of the entire Civil War was fought in Chattanooga, with 37,000 casualties.

Have you ever gamed it on the miniature tabletop?

Wackmole902 May 2018 6:27 p.m. PST

We did Missionary ridge once using 15mm and Johnny reb II

BW195902 May 2018 6:32 p.m. PST

Not the whole battle or campaign but did game the Battle of Wauchatchie some time ago.

EJNashIII02 May 2018 6:36 p.m. PST

Not with miniatures. However, the Avalon Hill board game the Blue and Gray II was one of my earliest war games. It included 4 separate games in which Chattanooga was one of the games included. Interestingly, my local library had bought a copy to entice local kids with history and I would imagine keep them out of trouble for some hours at a time. link

Major Mike02 May 2018 7:14 p.m. PST

Yes, using the original Fire and Fury. It was a nasty battle.

Ferd4523102 May 2018 8:26 p.m. PST

My great grandfather gamed it one on one at Brown's Ferry and Missionary Ridge. H

DisasterWargamer Supporting Member of TMP02 May 2018 8:26 p.m. PST

Also with original fire and fury

donlowry03 May 2018 9:38 a.m. PST

Miniatures, no; board games, yes; read about it; wrote about it; have visited the area.

As for the bloodiest 2-day battle, I suppose you mean Chickamauga, not Chattanooga.

ACWBill03 May 2018 1:05 p.m. PST

I ran the Chattanooga Campaign at Historicon 2011 in Valley Forge PA. It ran all weekend. We had several visits by Peter Cozzens, author of The Shipwreck of Their Hopes. I had a copy of the book laying on the table prior to the game. He signed it for me. Quite a nice guy and he was fascinated by the whole thing. Anyway, here are a few pics.

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There were four scenarios:

Wauhatchie – Regimental Fire & Fury
Lookout Mountain – As above
Missionary Ridge – Brigade Fire & Fury
Tunnel Hill – Brigade F & F

I telescoped the terrain for Lookout Mountain but I had it connected to the main board for scenic reasons.

All was 10mm using my lines of figures where possible.

Bill Moreno
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Frederick Supporting Member of TMP03 May 2018 3:16 p.m. PST

Not yet but sure would like to

Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian03 May 2018 7:42 p.m. PST

As for the bloodiest 2-day battle, I suppose you mean Chickamauga, not Chattanooga.

Definitely Chattanooga, factoid comes from an advertisement run a few years ago by Tennessee Vacation tnvacation.com

mghFond04 May 2018 2:09 a.m. PST

I just checked on losses for those two battles, it's not even close:

Chickamauga – With 16,170 Union and 18,454 Confederate casualties, the Battle of Chickamauga was the second costliest battle of the Civil War, ranking only behind Gettysburg, and was by far the deadliest battle fought in the West.

Chattanooga -Casualties for the Union Army amounted to 5,824 (753 killed, 4,722 wounded, and 349 missing) Confederate casualties of 6,667 (361 killed, 2,160 wounded, and 4,146 missing, mostly prisoners)

Winston Smith04 May 2018 8:22 a.m. PST

I guess an advertisement from the Tennessee Vacation Bureau trumps my well used Shelby Foote. grin

donlowry04 May 2018 8:39 a.m. PST

Of course, Chickamauga was fought in Georgia, not Tennessee.

ACWBill04 May 2018 9:43 a.m. PST

As Don and several others have pointed out, those stats appear to be from the Battle of Chickamauga, which was a much larger battle in terms of casualties and troops engaged. Geographically, Chattnooga was huge, but numerically this is not the case.

Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian04 May 2018 1:12 p.m. PST

It's in print, so it must be true! evil grin

Chattanooga

Also available online: PDF link

ACWBill04 May 2018 1:37 p.m. PST

History is everywhere, just not here!

Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian04 May 2018 6:21 p.m. PST

The same statistic can be found on the Smithsonian Magazine website… link

Tennessee's Civil War history is rich, as the state ranks number one in the total number of soldiers who fought in the War Between the States. After the war began, Tennessee became the last of 11 states to secede from the Union. The bloodiest two-day battle of the entire Civil War was fought in Chattanooga, with a staggering 37,000 casualties. More Civil War battles were fought in Tennessee than in any other state except Virginia.

Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian04 May 2018 6:28 p.m. PST

Almost the same sentence, but this time Chickamauga instead of Chattanooga! From 2004 advertising supplement…

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And on a Chattanooga website:

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Looks like it was a simple mistake for later authors to conflate Chickamauga and Chattanooga. grin

donlowry05 May 2018 8:56 a.m. PST

Perhaps compounded by the fact that both battlefields are included in one National Park.

corzin06 May 2018 7:54 a.m. PST

i wonder if Chattanooga visitor site is just "claiming" Chickamauga since it is only a dozen miles away

donlowry06 May 2018 9:06 a.m. PST

Probably. Like I said, it's all one park and, I think, straddles the state line.

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