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tshryock17 Apr 2018 3:00 p.m. PST

I'm looking to create a scenario focused on the fighting at and near Hougoumont during Waterloo. Can anyone point me to a resource that lists all the units that fought there as well as those nearby, such as the British forces on the ridge behind it? If it matters, I'll be doing this at probably a battalion scale.

Also, I'll need 15mm Nassau and Hanover troops, I believe. Any recommendations for makers of those (or were they wearing British style uniforms)?

Camcleod18 Apr 2018 6:12 a.m. PST

Adkin's Waterloo book has a section on who & when for Hougoumont.
Most of the defenders were in company or part batallion strength.

From various places on-line the initial garrison:
1st company of the Hanoverian Field Jagers (sharpshooters) of one hundred men.
One hundred rifle armed men from each of the Luneburg and Grubenhagen Hanoverian battalions.
1st Battalion of the 2nd Nassau Regiment commanded by Major Büsgen, totalling 800 men in six companies.
The light companies from each of the four British Guards battalions – each about 90 to 100 strong.
More Guard cos. were sent in later and a Brunswick Bn. showed up much later.

Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP18 Apr 2018 7:09 a.m. PST

appendix c of Paget and Saunders "Hougoumont gives units and strengths, but I think includes anyone within any range of HGMT, the orchard and largely total unit strengths not those directly committed etc;

2nd battn 1st Guards (light co) 75
3rd Bttn 1 st (light co) 90
2/2 Guards 1,045
2/3 Guards 1,056
1/2nd Nassau 600
1st Luneberg Hanoverian (one co) 100
one co Jager Corps Hanoverian 321

1,2,3, 4th Line Bttns KGL
3rd Brigade Hanoverians

Prince of Essling18 Apr 2018 7:34 a.m. PST

Some useful maps from rod Wilson's blog at link showing positions:

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Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP18 Apr 2018 8:42 a.m. PST

I kept wondering about the Advance Guard of The Brunswickers and Uffindell has them in my copy of his book (which is superb);

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tshryock18 Apr 2018 7:32 p.m. PST

Wow, thank you.

Le Breton19 Apr 2018 7:36 a.m. PST

Do you want the French?

If so, here is a start for the 6th division, net of losses at Quatre Bras (some differences with the maps posted above). "N_____" means I have not found the name.

6e division d'infanterie
- lieutenant général prince Jérôme Bonaparte
---- premier aide de camp maréchal de camp Marc-François-Jérôme Wolff
---- colonel premier écuyer Charles-Frédéric de Hamel
---- colonel aide de camp baron Ernest de Gayl
---- capitaine aide de camp Alphée Bourdon de Vatry
- commandant en 2e lieutenant général comte Amand-Charles Guilleminot
---- premier aide de camp capitaine baron Gregoire Benoist de Lostende
---- aide de camp capitaine Jean-Baptiste-César Paulée
---- aide de camp lieutenant Louis Dreuz
- chef d'état-major adjudant commandant Simon-Pierre-René Hortode
---- capitaine adjoint d'état-major N_____
---- capitaine adjoint d'état-major N_____
---- capitaine adjoint d'état-major N_____
- officier adjoint d'artillerie commandant N_____
- officier adjont du génie capitaine en 1er Jean-Jules Jacquin de Cassières
- sous-inspecteur aux revues N_____
- commissaire des guerres N_____
--- adjoint aux commissaire des guerres N_____

1ere brigade – maréchal de camp baron Pierre-François Bauduin
--- premier aide de camp capitaine N_____
--- aide de camp lieutenant N_____
--- 1er régiment d'infanterie légère – colonel Amédée-Louis Despans de Cubières (11/25)
------ 1er bataillion (17/580) – chef de bataillon Jean-Baptiste Jolyet
------ 2e bataillon (17/580) – chef de bataillon Louis-Eugène Buirette
------ 3e bataillon (17/580) – chef de bataillon Joseph Burtin
--- 3e régiment d'infanterie de ligne – colonel baron Hubert Vautrin (7/22)
------ 1er bataillon (15/480) – chef de bataillon Jean-Frédéric Ducommun
------ 2e bataillon (15/480) – chef de bataillon Louis Patin

2e brigade – maréchal de camp baron Jean-Louis Soye
--- premier aide de camp capitaine N_____
--- aide de camp lieutenant N_____
--- 1er régiment d'infanterie de ligne – major Jean-Louis Baux, dit "Lebeau" (4/20)
------ 1er bataillion (15/590) – capitaine adjudant-major Joseph Plafait
------ 2e bataillon (15/590) – chef de bataillon Jean-Pierre Prévost
--- 2e régiment d'infanterie de ligne – colonel Jean Tripe (11/29)
------ 1er bataillion (16/530) – chef de bataillon François-Michel Brayer
------ 2e bataillon (16/530) – chef de bataillon Jean-Louis Sarrand
------ 3e bataillon (16/530) – chef de bataillon Jean-Baptiste Reilhac

2e compagnie du 2e régiment d'artillerie à pied (3/90) – capitaine en 2e N_____ (capitaine commandant Antoine-Gabriel-Louis Meunier killed at QB) – 6x canon de 6-livres, 2x obusier de 5.5 pouces

1ere compagnie du 1er escadron du train d'artillerie (2/100) – capitaine César Fivel

2e compagnie du 1er bataillon du 1er régiment du génie (4/80) – capitaine commandant Étienne Sabatin

Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP19 Apr 2018 12:53 p.m. PST

Is it not funny how we all thought your question related to the chaps facing south?

It took Le Breton to realise that the French might have participated also………

In that case we must add the Allied line artillery….

I think any such question must be looking at who was truly within the Hgmnt perimeter, whether the woodland to the south, the farm/chateauu building complex, the walled garden, or the orchard to the East.

Most the Allied West wing played some part

Marc the plastics fan20 Apr 2018 12:13 p.m. PST

Whereas I just like the maps

John de Terre Neuve21 Apr 2018 4:11 a.m. PST

I have played this scenario out many times. Here is my rendition some years ago with the ruleset Lasalle link At the time I played it in 28 mm but now have a 18mm army. An OB is included.

Here we have it being played with BP using the scenario from Albion Triumphant. link

I now use General d'Armee for Napoleonics, I suspect this scenario will released in an upcoming Scenario book for GdA.

I am quite looking forward to playing it with GdA as you can see the my Hougomont building are in 15 mm.

I would go with AB that now has a complete line for Nassau-Butch Belgians. I think Blue Moon has some Hanoverians or you could proxy Brits. Not sure what I would proxy for the Kielmansegge Jagers.

One of my favourite scenarios, have fun.

John

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