"From 10 to 8 companies..." Topic
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Paskal | 17 Apr 2018 6:57 a.m. PST |
Hi everybody, In what year in the nineteenth century, the British battalions went from 10 to 8 companies? Thank you |
kustenjaeger | 18 Apr 2018 1:33 a.m. PST |
Paskal Which year are you interested in? I looked up Hansard (British Parliament transcripts) and came across a debate in 1860 where the evolution of depots was being discussed which had a number of changes between the 1820s and later 1850s between 6 and 10 'service' companies on active service. link Regards Edward |
Paskal | 18 Apr 2018 11:43 p.m. PST |
Edward, Thank you for the link. Regards Paskal |
Paskal | 19 Apr 2018 6:47 a.m. PST |
Obviously these are the center companies that disappeared when the number of companies decreased. The Indian infantry regiments of the 3 HEIC armies had two companies of grenadiers and no light companies ,well, from what I remember reading many decades ago, but I find this weird… Other metamorphoses: King's and HEIC battalions in India in the third Mahratta and Pindari War (1817 – 1819)had one or more companies armed and dressed as riflemen. An officer, R.G.Wallace, recorded that the 2nd Bn., 56th Foot had ‘ his 8th and Light Companies armed with rifles (But what type? Baker carbine?)and clothed in green'. When the 65th relieved it at Poona in 1817,'the rifleswere transferred to the 65th and two of the companies were soon arrayed in green'. The Bengal European also had a rifle company until 1824, and a officer expressed his grief at'parting with my handsome green uniform'.Unfortunately no details of these uniforms have materialised. |
Paskal | 02 May 2018 11:10 p.m. PST |
In 1857 the infantry battalions had 8 to 10 companies of 100 bayonets. Units with large head-dresses – the Highlanders in the case of the Mutiny – had 10 companies the others 8. This was because the distinctions of the light and grenadier companies (shoulder wings on their tunics) were retained on full dress uniforms. The ordinary line units did not retain the flank companies. |
Paskal | 07 May 2018 8:09 a.m. PST |
I finally found ! Obviously these are the center companies that disappeared when the number of companies decreased. It was during the Cardwell Army Reforms and was in place between 1868 and 1874. Regimental reorganization and renumbering of coys took place following the Order of 1871. Also the answer is 1871 ! |
laretenue | 08 May 2018 2:29 p.m. PST |
Paskal: I may have misunderstood you, but the Coys which disappeared from British Bns were the Flank Coys – Grenadiers and Lights. Which left eight Coys, A-H, averaging about 120 rifles. This made them small by the standards of Continental armies, but handy for the colonial Gendarmerie role performed by the Army in places like India. This remained the establishment until the eve of WW1, at which point the size of Rifle Coys was doubled (each now with four Platoons) and the number halved. Before WW2, one Pl was removed from each Coy, and during the War a Support Company of Hy Wpns was added. This remained broadly the structure until late in the last century. |
Paskal | 08 May 2018 10:49 p.m. PST |
Thank you but I just wanted to know when they disappeared and I found! |
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