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Shakespear26 Mar 2018 7:52 p.m. PST

Preferably on the field

Black Cavalier26 Mar 2018 8:10 p.m. PST

William Cavendish, Marquess of Newcastle

Pictors Studio26 Mar 2018 8:39 p.m. PST

James Harrington.

Kevin C26 Mar 2018 8:49 p.m. PST

George Monck. He understood what it took to return normality to the nation.

nsolomon9926 Mar 2018 10:14 p.m. PST

Sir Ralph Hopton? Sir Bevil Grenville maybe? Sir Thomas Fairfax on the list for sure. All of them more honest soldier than politician.

Codsticker26 Mar 2018 10:18 p.m. PST

Mr Personality himself, Prince Rupert.

Prince Rupert of the Rhine26 Mar 2018 11:39 p.m. PST

I'll let you take one guess :)

AussieAndy27 Mar 2018 1:12 a.m. PST

Boy (the dog).

Drunken skunk27 Mar 2018 1:25 a.m. PST

John Lilburne

Mollinary27 Mar 2018 2:46 a.m. PST

Jacob Astley

Personal logo BigRedBat Sponsoring Member of TMP27 Mar 2018 3:20 a.m. PST

Indeed Astley "O Lord, Thou knowest how busy I must be this day. If I forget Thee, do not forget me."

BAsing him today…

ZULUPAUL Supporting Member of TMP27 Mar 2018 3:28 a.m. PST

Cromwell I know he isn't popular but then again I'm not from England & grew up on the movie "Cromwell".

SpuriousMilius27 Mar 2018 4:26 a.m. PST

George Goring

Razor7827 Mar 2018 4:27 a.m. PST

Col Peter Egerton…a relatively

martinthorold27 Mar 2018 5:16 a.m. PST

My vote goes for Sir Thomas Tyldersley… "the finest knight in England"

dwight shrute27 Mar 2018 5:25 a.m. PST

freeborn John Lilburne

AussieAndy27 Mar 2018 6:20 a.m. PST

Actually, Colonel Rainsborough would be my serious choice.

skinkmasterreturns27 Mar 2018 8:11 a.m. PST

Everybody loves Boye in one fashion or another, even if he was considered Satan's representative by the Roundheads.

KeithRK27 Mar 2018 8:13 a.m. PST

English Pikeman #2

Supercilius Maximus27 Mar 2018 8:17 a.m. PST

Either Pwinth Wupert of the Whine, or hith bwuther, Pwinth Mauwith.

martin goddard Sponsoring Member of TMP27 Mar 2018 9:10 a.m. PST

Cromwell

Shagnasty Supporting Member of TMP27 Mar 2018 9:28 a.m. PST

Rupert!

Elenderil27 Mar 2018 9:37 a.m. PST

Surprised Carlo Fantom hasn't had a mention yet.

Baccus 6mm27 Mar 2018 11:57 a.m. PST

Tom Fairfax. Fought a magnificently spirited and successful campaign in Yorkshire in the early months of the war often badly outnumbered.

The first Lord General of the NMA, and made a very good job of that. Resigned his commission in protest at the execution of the double-dealing and pernicious Charles Stuart and lived to a good age as a respected gentleman. What is there not to like or respect?

Wargames Designs27 Mar 2018 12:40 p.m. PST

Dumb Dyott, for sniping off Lord Brooke from the tower of Lichfield Cathedral, what a shot! Also serves Brooke right for being a show off and dressing his men in purple.

Jst a glimpse of my model of Dumb Dyatt strikes fear into my mate Nick when he has Brookes regiment on the gaming table.

cavcrazy27 Mar 2018 1:30 p.m. PST

Fred

Carlo Fantom27 Mar 2018 1:42 p.m. PST

My namesake, Carlo Fantom. He was a very naughty man.

goragrad27 Mar 2018 2:07 p.m. PST

Rupert.

Winston Smith27 Mar 2018 2:09 p.m. PST

Wasn't Montrose the one who complained that his desserts were too small?
Come on! It's prison food! One scoop of ice cream is all you get!

rampantlion27 Mar 2018 4:39 p.m. PST

Rupert was my favorite, but Fantom might be the most interesting!

Cyrus the Great27 Mar 2018 9:49 p.m. PST

James Graham, 1st Marquess of Montrose.

Prince Rupert of the Rhine28 Mar 2018 5:22 a.m. PST

Yes Montrose has to get an honourably mention probably the most gifted soldier of the whole war given the material he had to work with and the results he got.

steamingdave4728 Mar 2018 10:55 a.m. PST

Montrose gets the credit for a lot of Alasdair Mac Colla Chiotaich MacDhňmhnaill's work. He was also facing some fairly disjointed opponents, whose loyalty to their cause in 1644-45 was rather dubious.
My vote goes to Thomas Fairfax, with an honourable mention to his cousin, William.

Prince Rupert of the Rhine28 Mar 2018 12:46 p.m. PST

Regardless of the disjointed nature of his opponents I struggle to think of another civil war general who could of pulled off what Montrose did with the soldiers he had available.

While the Irish were good soldiers the highlanders were still akin to a medieval levy (and a pretty independent one at that) the build up to the battle of Inverlochy was an epic strategic master stroke.

steamingdave4728 Mar 2018 2:31 p.m. PST

Inverlochy was a significant achievement for Montrose, but both at Auldearn and at Philiphaugh Montrose seems to have neglected some of the basics of proper reconnaissance and his forces were caught dispersed. He managed to turn it round at Auldearn, largely because he was facing an army with a high proportion of raw levies, some of whom were led by half hearted leaders (and Mac Colla's force gave him time to pull the rest of his army together). At Philiphaugh he came against a more cohesive and better led force than at Auldearn and it proved his undoing.

Cheriton28 Mar 2018 2:46 p.m. PST

Sir Ralph Hopton…

guinness

janner31 Mar 2018 5:38 a.m. PST

William Waller

MacColla05 Apr 2018 2:56 p.m. PST

Another vote for Montrose. I would have said my namesake; but Montrose's defeat at Philiphaugh was due in part to his habitual lack of reconnaissance but equally due to MacColla going off with a large part of the Irish on his own personal/clan dispute leaving Montrose in the lurch.

Last Hussar05 Apr 2018 4:00 p.m. PST

Not saying anything about favourite, but 'Black Tom' Fairfax's grandfather is a direct forebear of mine (i.e. one of my Dad's ancestors was Fairfax's cousin)

Gwydion08 Apr 2018 5:49 a.m. PST

Sir William Brereton.

GEames08 Apr 2018 10:46 p.m. PST

Hugh Dubh O'Neill. Possibly one of the most overlooked commanders of war in Ireland.

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