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Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP23 Mar 2018 12:58 p.m. PST

Battlefront Miniatures released new 15mm WW2 Italians

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mysteron Supporting Member of TMP24 Mar 2018 2:26 a.m. PST

Very useful for Battlegroups forth coming book Torch.I am glad that the Italians are getting some coverage.

Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP24 Mar 2018 11:35 a.m. PST

Glad you like them my friend!.

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MadMat20 Inactive Member25 Mar 2018 5:01 a.m. PST

Those are mostly republication of existing miniatures.
They were good quality models though.

Only issue if you want to paint an Italian Desert campaign's army from Battlefront is that they don't have infantry with colonial helmet.
For that, I suggest using the gorgeous Skytrex Italian infantry:
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Here are some pictures of my (large) Italian colonial army, mixing miniatures from Battlefront (mostly vehicles & Askaris), Skytrex (colonial infantry) and Peter Pig (camel riders and some trucks):
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Marc33594 Supporting Member of TMP25 Mar 2018 7:35 a.m. PST

Nicely done MadMat20

Mark 125 Mar 2018 3:42 p.m. PST

MadMat20 –

An exceptional Italian North African force! I am very impressed.

You have so many of the items I wish I could find in my scale (6mm). The sun helmets. The Bersaglieri mounted 2 per motorcycle, and supported with tricyclettas. Not to mention the colonials.

Very well done!

Avanti!

-Mark
(aka: Mk 1)

Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP25 Mar 2018 8:51 p.m. PST

Good job my friend!


Congrats!

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Armand

mysteron Supporting Member of TMP26 Mar 2018 2:09 a.m. PST

A very nice looking Italian force. I havn't seen many of these as most tend to collect DAK .

I am possibly no different here, however playing BattleGroup Tobruk does allow mixed forces . So I am having roughly a quarter as Italians which is permitted under these rules .

MadMat20 Inactive Member26 Mar 2018 4:32 a.m. PST

>>A very nice looking Italian force. I havn't seen many of these as most tend to collect DAK .

My regular opponent and I are usually favoring unsung armies or theaters.
He plays 1941-1942 Free French & Vichy France, with a focus on Syria 1941. And aside from my Italian colonial army, I have some Australian 9th Division's units.

My other major project was the Indochina War, for which I have also some quite large armies too.

>>You have so many of the items I wish I could find in my scale (6mm). The sun helmets. The Bersaglieri mounted 2 per motorcycle, and supported with tricyclettas. Not to mention the colonials.

Many of them weren't Italian initially. So I guess you may also find references in other armies which provide for missing Italian stuff.

For example, my P.A.I. (not Bersaglieri) motorcycle unit is made of Battlefront's Greek motocyclists, with the tricycletta being from Peter Pig and the side-car a French one from Battlefront my fiend gave me.

Came troops are Mahdists + British camel riders from Peter Pig's Suddan 1885 range.

At a 6mm scale, I guess details between nations are even smaller, so maybe you could use XIXth century colonial troops with tropical helmets to represent 1942 Italian riflemen.

Maha Bandula27 Mar 2018 1:06 a.m. PST

Any chance of pictures, MadMat20? Would love to see what those Vichy French look like!

Col Piron27 Mar 2018 6:31 a.m. PST

The 90mm on Lancia crew have gone from ,

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Mark 127 Mar 2018 11:00 a.m. PST

At a 6mm scale, I guess details between nations are even smaller, so maybe you could use XIXth century colonial troops with tropical helmets to represent 1942 Italian riflemen.

True, that. And I am not at all adverse to a bit of re-purposing and kit-bashing.

For example my French Armee d'Afrique force is built mostly on GHQ's Romanian infantry figures. The out-sized helmets make for a reasonable tropical sun helmet at this scale, rifles are pretty indistinguishable, and the LMGs are a good match:

Some kit-bashing helps. For French colonial forces some M1916 37mm trench guns can provide useful close-support (given the dearth of other heavier support weapons), and GHQ's odd choice of putting captured SG-43 MGs in the hands of the Romanians provided a useful starting point for a bit of modification:

But for my Italians I am still struggling. As mentioned I prefer the continental uniforms, as I like the gaming flexibility of a force for Tunisia, Sicily and the Eastern Front.


I'd love to put some motorcycles into my force. My target would be the motorcycle-equipped cavalry regiments, rather than the Bersaglieri, as this would allow re-use of my existing infantry figures for dismounts.

But alas, finding any Italian motorcyclists, or even any motorcyclists I could re-purpose into Italians, is proving difficult.

About the only motorcycle troops I can find at my scale are German (from multiple vendors), Russian (from one vendor) or Japanese. They are focused on side-car mounts. The Italian motorcycle forces used VERY few side-cars, and were mostly built on tandem riders, which I can not find. There are some Japanese tricycles available from one vendor, but that vendor's products don't mix too well with the others, and the tricycles, even at this scale are not very close to the Italian style.

So I am left trying to figure out if/how I could kit-bash second riders onto existing motorcycles (from side-car sets without the side-cars). I'm thinking of adding C-in-C marching (slung guns) US infantry to the back of GHQ German motorcycles. The C-in-C infantry are easy to bend (and break!), and they have slung rifles, and the GHQ motorcycles do not come with the side-cars pre-attached. If (big if) I could get the infantry figures appropriately on to the backs of the motorcycles, then I'd still have some helmet re-shaping to do.

And looking for some way to kit-bash the tricycles, perhaps by cutting of the back of a GHQ German Kettengrad and adding some sliced-up rendition of a GHQ US jeep trailer.

If I could even manage all of that, I expect the result would be a lot of time spent creating a fast (well OK, only half so) Italian motorcycle formation, just in time for some vendor to introduce some lovely figures for the same. Frequently runs that way for me.

But in any case I just yammer about it and think about it and plan for it, but you have put it together! For that, I applaud your force, and your work!

-Mark
(aka: Mk 1)

MadMat20 Inactive Member28 Mar 2018 3:19 a.m. PST

Unfortunately, I don't know the WW2 6mm scale to help you re-purpose other nations' units … :(

>>Any chance of pictures, MadMat20? Would love to see what those Vichy French look like!

Those are the only ones I could find:

Spahis mounted and on foot (can be either Vichy or FFL)

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African Tirailleurs (ditto)

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Vichy AA trucks

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Vichy FT-17 (and an FFL AT gun)

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brianmc05 Apr 2018 8:14 p.m. PST

Skytrex look great, I wish they made blackshirts wearing a fez

Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP05 Apr 2018 9:26 p.m. PST

Great job my friend!…. Congrats!.


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