"SJW Disney removes blasters from Solo posters" Topic

SJW Disney have photoshopped all the space guns out of posters for their new movie.

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As Ethan Van Sciver says here it show they have a guilty conscience about making movies with guns in:-

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So, Solo is a movie no one wants to see and SJW Disney is ashamed to be making.

Isn't Star Wars fun these days.

It's PC, but Disney really had no choice since the "March for Our Lives" movement is sweeping our country after recent school shooting(s).

Besides, they don't want to give any parents the excuse to ban their teenagers from seeing the movie because of the "insensitive" poster which appear to advocate guns.

It's only going to get worse, the more they get their way. Just like spoiled children.

Dan
PS. And I'm sure the ones who did this are all patting each other on the back congratulating themselves for their grand victory over the gun-obsessed patriarchy! :)

We will defeat the Empire with harsh language!!!!!

Unless it hurts their feelings.

"I felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of snowflakes suddenly cried out in terror, and were suddenly melted. I fear something terrible has happened."

They could have put walkie talkies in their hands like E.T.

Star Wars is clearly a terrible fit for the portfolio SJW Disney want to have.

One really wonders why the heck they bought it when it could not be more obvious the last thing they want to be doing is selling cowboys and Indians style play fighting to boys.

selling white colonizers and oppressed First Nations indigenous peoples style play

Fixed that for you, Dezmond.

Yeah. No matter how hard they scrub they are never going to fully cleanse Star Wars of the taint of its origins in European masculinity so why don't they just do themselves and everyone else a favour and stop making Star Wars.

We will all be happier.

No matter how hard they scrub they are never going to fully cleanse Star Wars of the taint of its origins in European masculinity so why don't they just do themselves and everyone else a favour and stop making Star Wars.

And let someone else who's not as sensitive to the "sins of our fathers" take over the franchise?

Xe who controls the past controls the future. Sie who controls the present controls the past.

Still, both SJW Disney and everyone else would clearly be far happier if they disassociated from the brand.

Well, if so many people in the US didn't worship guns so much perhaps this wouldn't have been necessary. Is it really something to be proud of to have 48% of the worlds guns and 1 of the highest rates of gun deaths in the world? Or to require armed guards at schools like some third world country in the middle of a war? Instead of calling people who object to school kids getting gunned down snowflakes, perhaps it is time to consider whether this obsession with having a gun is really worth the cost.

You mean Xi who must be obeyed? :)

Dan

Vigilant
We have the second amendment, enough said.

Know what is worse, the whiners getting upset about it here.

>perhaps it is time to consider whether this obsession with having a gun is really worth the cost.

The price of freedom is eternal vigilance.

Anyway, this is a toy soldier forum. Obessions with guns is our whole bit.

Now you could argue that those are pretend guns, not real ones. But then so was the one Han was holding, and they have already come for that one.

They can take my War Toy minis from my cold dead hands.

(Which given that I live in the U.K. is rather less difficult to do than I would like)

I guess we don't "worship" our guns enough.

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Guys

Lol. Your minis are next! Pretty soon one will need to show proof of age (or more*) just to buy a figure that has a gun.

Just relax and don't struggle. The social re-engineering hurts a lot more if you struggle.

Dan
* Everything except proof of citizenship, for some reason. :)

Yes! We have our constitutional right! This is undeniably more important than all the loved ones our fellow Americans lose to violence.

OK. Let the mad rant begin!

"Wars".
That's the problematic part.
What if "they" call it "Star Adventures" instead?

Awesome. Just found two more idgits on the site to stifle. Great thread!

So what is "SJW"? Is it just the Spanish version? Isn't it false advertising to hint of the lack of weapons, yet have the movie full of action including Dias weapons?

Jdpintex

Lol. You mean the brave "guerreros por la justicia social"? The same people who suspend and expel little kids from school for making "finger guns" on school grounds. :)

Yes, I think you really have a point there. It would be false advertising!

Dan

Disney is a company, companies avoid bad press and potentially controversial topics like the plague. If guns were not a problem they would make movies like "Guns" cf "Cars/Planes"

The people running Disney are all business executives, they make all the stupid decisions they make otherwise, but now somebody with a more suspicious mind than average can delight in scaring themselves with silly three letter words and pretend that the world is against them and that they are the most oppressed people ever.

Same for the banning of finger guns in school, they simply use a blanket "no guns in any form or shape" policy just to avoid having to spend time policing the whole thing and avoid furious parents and litigation. A lot of things are done not in the name of some dark and evil agenda, but for pure convenience. The reason that kids had to sit straight and be dead silent in class was not because people had a huge hard-on for authority and wanted to make meek and docile sheep like some social justice warriors love to claim (yes there is quite a bit of irony in this sentence) but for pure and simple convenience.

Grow up people, you belong to a group that never had it better, holds more collective power than ever before and can live a life that only the richest kings could dream of until less than a century ago. And if you are going down some day, it will not be the magical three letter word people, but the ones you implicitly trusted to have your best interests at heart that will stab you in the back.

As for the second amendment community it's not different from every other self-interest group ever : "We deserve more, screw everybody else." It's not an indictment, it's a fact, it happens all the time, people are like that, without somebody to slap you around, we'll have our cake and eat it, take the Cannabis lobby that has tried to sell the billions of amazing virtues the plant has, while they remain deafeningly silent about the main topic because they are the same hypocrites as the NRA, the banks lobby, the coal lobby, the nuclear lobby, the military industrial complex etc. There is no problem with what we're trying to push, in fact there isn't enough of it …

If you are obsessed about guns being removed from a poster, you're probably the kind that won't notice people who do actively try to screw you and deserve it.

And in all such matters it helps to remember that most people are too stupid and lazy to conspire against you, they would rather figure a way to make more money than break into a sweat in trying to social engineer the world into your personal nightmare.

Never attribute to malice, that which can adequately be explained by stupidity.

>If guns were not a problem they would make movies like "Guns" cf "Cars/Planes"

But why then did SJW Disney buy the bloody thing when they are so keen to distance themselves from everything it has traditionally represented (western civilisation myth making, war toys, white men etc.)

I mean, if you fundamentally do not want to be in the business of selling toy guns to boys what on gods green earth are you doing picking up Star Wars? Had they never seen the movies or something?

If I want to kill people, I don't need a gun to do it. I have a car, knives, pencils, hands, ect.

BTW check suicide by gun stats vs all other forms of death by gun. You might be surprised. Then look at the county having the highest suicide rate and how many guns they have.

All this daily hyperbole about everything in our culture has become annoying and sad.

PatrickR, good points, but you should live where I do…social engineering is a favorite pastime of the locals!

If you are not an American how can our 2nd Amendment possibly be a concern of yours?

If you are an American and do not exercise your freedoms, I guess you just plan on calling 911 and sitting back while my colleagues and I take the risks to keep the wolves away from you and yours.

The crappy paint job isn't my fault. It's the paints fault…….

… It's not the paint, it's the brush…

>I guess you just plan on calling 911 and sitting back while my colleagues and I take the risks to keep the wolves away from you and yours.

Just lock the doors. And hope they don't have blasters.

Did I just hear an attempt to guilt-trip people into buying guns? lol

Down at the bottom of the page is the Blue Fez. Lets talk about gaming and miniatures here shall we?

AMen, Choctaw, took the words right out of my mouth.

Choctaw – in 2015 over 4.5 million business or tourist visits were made to the USA from the UK alone. Where is our right to protect ourselves from the bonehead who decides to shoot up the diner/shopping mall/concert? For all the talk about constitutional rights and the need to protect your freedoms, you do not live in isolation.
Mister Tabbies – most of the things you quote can be used to kill, but their main purpose is not. Guns only have 1 purpose. Also a gun does not protect you from another gun, in my lifetime 2 US presidents have been shot despite being surrounded by armed guards. Military and police personnel have to go through considerable training and tests before being allowed to carry weapons, but Joe 6 pack can just go and buy 1? How does that make sense?

Well, I mean, given the UK government is fairly likely to be controlled by Corbynists some time soon I certainly don't want to give it *more* power over my life.

And even when it isn't controlled by the far left I don't enormously trust the UK establishment to act in my best interests.

Now, admittedly I am… unusually anxious about most things, but really, does anyone look at the world and where it is heading these days and feel sufficiently safe to relax and give other people more control of what you are permitted to say, think and do?

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Anyway, as it relates to Star Wars once you take out all the gunslingers and soldiers and fighter pilots and samurai warriors what, exactly, is left for SJW Disney to sell?

A princess movie with lots of songs?

If I want to kill people, I don't need a gun to do it. I have a car, knives, pencils, hands, ect.

Archie Bunker on the subject
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Lol. They would ban windus.

Dan

A few weeks ago a woman walked into our store. She asked for a toy for her son. She wanted a Stormtrooper. Apparently, the child was crazy about Stormtroopers. I showed her the models we had available. She made a face of disgust. Politely, asked me if all of them carried guns. She didn't want guns in her house, not even tiny, plastic guns. I told her that it wasn't a gun -It is a blaster, mam- with my best poker face. She did buy the Stormtrooper with the no-gun blaster.

Awesome. Just found two more idgits on the site to stifle. Great thread!

This is the real problem. No one will talk to or listen to someone from the other camp or with another pov. If you do you are labeled as one of "them" and just as bad. It is my way or the highway with nary a compromise in sight. Lots of compromises went into the US Constitution and in the functioning of a democratic country, just sayn'

I'm happy to say that I did a stifle just once and left it on for about 5 minutes.

I was going to stifle Stephen Swift but then I looked at his profile and realized he was a dhimmi and thus it is haram for him to own a weapon among other things.

>>>A few weeks ago a woman walked into our store. She asked for a toy for her son. She wanted a Stormtrooper. Apparently, the child was crazy about Stormtroopers. I showed her the models we had available. She made a face of disgust. Politely, asked me if all of them carried guns. She didn't want guns in her house, not even tiny, plastic guns. I told her that it wasn't a gun -It is a blaster, mam- with my best poker face. She did buy the Stormtrooper with the no-gun blaster.

That woman's name? Kathleen Kennedy.

I have a problem with movie stars who make shoot ‘em up action movies and then denounce guns.
Ditto celebrities who have armed bodyguards and then denounce guns.

It's not their opinions that bother me. Repeal the 2nd Amendment if it bothers you all that much. Good luck with that.
It's their hypocrisy that annoys me.
Give all the money you made in your action movies to soup kitchens for the homeless and then only make romantic comedies. There's nothing like Saul/Paul on the road to Damascus.
It's like flying in a private jet to headline a conference on climate change.
Walk the walk, you clowns.

Sir Walter. Actually I am a former British serviceman qualified on pistol and rifle, with a son who is an Anglican minister. My father served in Bomber Command during WW2, my grandfather was with the Royal Artillery during WW1, wounded twice on the Somme. I have a degree in Medieval and Modern History, 2 years of which concentrated on American history. I have visited the USA 16 times in the last 19 years, including twice in the 12 months after 9/11 and have been to over half the states in the union, including your own. The closest I have come to living in an Islamic state, as your attempted insult suggests, was a week's Nile cruise to visit places like Karnak and Abu Symbal. So stifle if you like, I don't care, I live in a free country and am entitled to my opinions, and as a regular visitor to yours, as are many of my friends, I do have an interest in the debate. As to the original post I do find it ridiculous to change the posters, I much prefer the originals. Then again I know the difference between reality and fantasy movie, clearly the people at Disney are not convinced that the rest of the world does.

Vigilant: "As to the original post I do find it ridiculous to change the posters, I much prefer the originals. Then again I know the difference between reality and fantasy movie, clearly the people at Disney are not convinced that the rest of the world does."

LOL. Wow, look at that! After all this we find we agree on the ridiculousness of the actual discussion topic in the OP. Fantastic!

Dan
PS. I remember arguing a lot like this when my wife and I were newlyweds, often only to find out we were both in agreement to begin with. Nowadays, after being married almost 35 years, we mostly use telepathy.

Those of you indignant about the agendas of real or imagined Disney SJW's are really missing the point here. As Patrick R said it's nothing more than convenience. Disney would happily leave the guns on the poster if there's no social or political cost in doing so.

If you want to direct your outrage, put it on perps like Stephen Paddock, Nikolas Cruz, Omar Mateen, Adam Lanza, James Holmes or Farook and Malik for ruining it for all of us. Or better yet, blame it on our mad, mad post-9/11 world that has become so sensitive that the actions of a few people and isolated incidents can engender such an exaggerated and magnified overreaction.

But blaming Disney for doing what's expected (if not demanded) of them by society at large? Come on.

The way SJWs operate is to impose a social or political cost for defying them.

If that doesn't work to force you to act and speak and think as they tell you they will happily smash your teeth in with a baseball bat, but they generally haven't needed to.

Is it society at large that demands people do as tolerant progressives mandate? People don't cave to SJWs because they want to or believe it to be just. They cave to SJWs because they fear the social and political retaliation SJWs impose on people who step out of line.

Progressives rule by fear. Perhaps the more they tighten their grip the more Star Systems will slip through their fingers. But it certainly isn't much fun to live life with their jackboot stamping on your face at every opportunity.

Disney has me trembling in my boots.

Personally, I'm looking forward to visiting their forthcoming Star Wars Land. It looks like its going to be fantastic. And that kind of investment seems to show that they are committed to SW, and believe it's a good fit for them. With or without blasters of course.

SJW's jump on and take advantage of tragedies like mass shootings to shape public opinion and further their agendas (such as gun control in this case) with "I told you so!" glee, but it doesn't change the fact that Disney's move is the right one here because it's the expedient thing to do.

The Mouse House would have a huge PR and image problem if it didn't "give in" to the SJW's in this instance. Don't take it too personally.

Silurian: "I'm looking forward to visiting their forthcoming Star Wars Land. It looks like its going to be fantastic … With or without blasters"

Maybe, instead of blasters they'll be allowed to use finger guns. :)

Dan