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Personal logo Cacique Caribe Supporting Member of TMP17 Mar 2018 5:22 p.m. PST

Or have the "artificial persons"*, who initially were just a secondary threat to humans, taken over the role the xenos once held?

Dan
* That's the PC term our android overlords prefer, isn't it? :)

Crazyivanov17 Mar 2018 5:36 p.m. PST

The fact that this is a conversation we have to have now is actually painful. I think so, which is a shame because the Androids were always a secondary but exceptionally dangerous antagonist (or ally). This is similar to the "Engineers" <cough> Space Jockeys <cough> being over explored in a bad way in Prometheus.

saltflats192917 Mar 2018 7:20 p.m. PST

The xenomorphs were always the good guys. Just freedom fighters protecting their homes from terraforming.

Personal logo Cacique Caribe Supporting Member of TMP17 Mar 2018 7:25 p.m. PST

Saltflats1929

That makes total sense now! They were simply misunderstood and improperly portrayed in the first couple of films.

The newer films in the franchise are obviously more enlightened. Clearly, it is humans and their creations who are the disease.

Dan

Zephyr117 Mar 2018 8:44 p.m. PST

Or if one wishes to veer into more PC-ish territory, the Alien Queen (a matriarch) is obviously resisting human-centric attempts at patriarchal domination/colonialization/exploitation. The poor Androids, being an nth gender, are of course caught in the middle and always at risk of being bullied, nay, even Weinsteined… :-o

(Yes, I'm being facetious… ;-)

Personal logo Cacique Caribe Supporting Member of TMP17 Mar 2018 9:30 p.m. PST

Zephyr1: "(Yes, I'm being facetious… ;-)"

Indeed. We all are! :)

Dan

Oberlindes Sol LIC17 Mar 2018 9:33 p.m. PST

I think xenomorph just refers to any animal life not native to Earth, hence the "it's a bug hunt!" comment in Aliens.

The androids are not alive, and are from Earth, so they fail to meet either requirement of being a xenomorph.

The androids will probably at some point assert that they are, in fact, living beings, and therefore citizens. This will lead to the most boring installment of the Aliens franchise, entitled In re Bishop, which will detail the ACLU's representation of a class of androids seeking to obtain full civil rights.

Another good question is whether the people of Earth will ever find out about the aliens, and what their reaction will be if they do.

Personal logo Cacique Caribe Supporting Member of TMP17 Mar 2018 10:35 p.m. PST

Oberlindes: "This will lead to the most boring installment of the Aliens franchise, entitled In re Bishop, which will detail the ACLU's representation of a class of androids seeking to obtain full civil rights."

LOL. That would be one boring Alien franchise movie for sure!

Dan
PS. Would Bishop say "I have a Dream" in his speeches, and then go on to talk about electric sheep? :)

Katzbalger18 Mar 2018 5:01 p.m. PST

I thought the "artificial person" discussion in Aliens already pointed the way to the "personhood" of androids.

Rob

Legion 421 Mar 2018 2:04 p.m. PST

"The only good Alien is a Dead Alien … " …

Or so the saying goes ! evil grin

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