Help support TMP


"It is always about the money"" Topic


23 Posts

All members in good standing are free to post here. Opinions expressed here are solely those of the posters, and have not been cleared with nor are they endorsed by The Miniatures Page.

For more information, see the TMP FAQ.


Back to the Ultramodern Warfare (2008-present) Message Board



763 hits since 7 Mar 2018
©1994-2018 Bill Armintrout
Comments or corrections?

Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP07 Mar 2018 9:53 p.m. PST

"Navy, Marine Corps leaders warn that China is 'weaponizing capital'

Top Navy and Marine Corps officials on Wednesday expressed concern over China's expanding global reach and said the superpower was rapidly buying up foreign land to "win without fighting."

"When it comes to China, the bottom line there is the checkbook," Navy Secretary Richard V. Spencer told lawmakers during a House Appropriations defense subcommittee hearing.

"Not only in the dollars and cents that they are writing to support their military expansion and their technological work, but what they're doing around the globe … weaponizing capital."

Spencer referred to Beijing's current funding of a Sri Lankan port project, a move not done as aid but rather in order to secure it for themselves…."


link


Main page
link

Amicalement
Armand

General Kirchner07 Mar 2018 10:30 p.m. PST

suprised that they use their strength?

we like to make fun of their ships and planes and tanks and army, but they are fighting with what they got, while we spend ourselves into a hole.

they have been spreading their cash in every pacific country possible, including small US territories.

28mm Fanatik07 Mar 2018 10:38 p.m. PST

And they say colonialism is dead.

zoneofcontrol08 Mar 2018 6:17 a.m. PST

Go Home (Insert name here) Imperialist Running Dogs !

FatherOfAllLogic08 Mar 2018 7:49 a.m. PST

The Chinese are doing the same thing the US did in the 40's and 50's.

Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP08 Mar 2018 10:10 a.m. PST

(smile)

Amicalement
Armand

Personal logo Cacique Caribe Supporting Member of TMP08 Mar 2018 11:32 a.m. PST

FatherOfAllLogic: "The Chinese are doing the same thing the US did in the 40's and 50's."

You mean after coming to the rescue of, and bleeding profusely for, Europe and a boatload of other countries … twice? Did China do that? :)

Dan

Begemot08 Mar 2018 2:15 p.m. PST

WW2 casualties (military and civilian combined):

China: 15 to 20 million
Soviet Union: 20 to 27 million
USA: 419,400

Source: link

Is one American life worth about forty of the other guys lives?

Personal logo Cacique Caribe Supporting Member of TMP08 Mar 2018 5:19 p.m. PST

Begemot: "Is one American life worth about forty of the other guys lives?"

Oh, please! Cut back on the guilt drama a bit. You know full well that I said (and meant) foreign wars.

Other than to "liberate" Tibet and to help create a dynasty of dictators in North Korea (both of those wars being right on their border) , how many foreign wars has Communist China actually taken on with any serious level of dedication and cost?

Dan
PS. Add another 53,000 for WW1, while you're at it.

Begemot08 Mar 2018 6:25 p.m. PST

China's low level of involvement in foreign wars as opposed to USA's speaks to its credit. China is more peace oriented and the USA is … less so?

Charlie 1208 Mar 2018 9:14 p.m. PST

You mean after coming to the rescue of, and bleeding profusely for, Europe and a boatload of other countries … twice? Did China do that? :)

China bled pretty damn profusely fighting the Japanese. And had been since 1937. Or would you rather had the whole of the IJA's Kwantung Army set loose in the SOPAC? But let's not have mere facts upset your ideological myth….

Bunkermeister Supporting Member of TMP08 Mar 2018 9:14 p.m. PST

While the USA was busy liberating the world from the Nazis and Japanese, then fighting for the South Koreans, and then South Vietnam; the Communist Chinese were busy trying to kill tens of millions of their own citizens, as well as supporting both Communist North Vietnam and Communist North Korea.

I don't believe the PRC is peace oriented.

Mike Bunkermeister Creek

Charlie 1208 Mar 2018 9:19 p.m. PST

The Chinese are doing the same thing the US did in the 40's and 50's.

Goes back even further, to the '20s and '30s. And the US played major economic hardball with the Japanese pre-WWII.

The Chinese are johnnie-come-latelys to the game. And pretty amateur at it, compared to the US (although they're upping their game).

And admirals and generals (Marine generals, no less) advising on economics. Now that's thoroughly hilarious! Talk about the deaf, dumb (very dumb) and blind leading the way….

Charlie 1208 Mar 2018 9:24 p.m. PST

Bunkermeister- You do remember the Japanese were in China at that time, don't you? Nanking, et al? Ring a bell, there?

History as interpreted by the ideological uber right is every bit as ridiculous and absurd as that interpreted by the ideological uber left.

Funny thing, that…..

Bunkermeister Supporting Member of TMP08 Mar 2018 9:24 p.m. PST

The Communist Chinese were busy with domestic affairs during most of the 2oth Century.

"In official study materials published in 1948, Mao envisaged that "one-tenth of the peasants" (or about 50,000,000) "would have to be destroyed" to facilitate agrarian reform." Wiki

I don't believe the PRC is peace oriented.

Mike Bunkermeister Creek

Personal logo Cacique Caribe Supporting Member of TMP09 Mar 2018 12:42 a.m. PST

Hmm. One tenth of the US population is exactly what in 1969 Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn told their associates (and an infiltrator) would need to be exterminated for their Weathermen's Marxist utopia to succeed in America.

I guess some of you would have called theirs a peaceful state then?

Dan

Dn Jackson09 Mar 2018 12:59 a.m. PST

"China's low level of involvement in foreign wars as opposed to USA's speaks to its credit. China is more peace oriented and the USA is … less so?"

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA…oh wait, you're not serious are you?

zoneofcontrol09 Mar 2018 10:09 a.m. PST

Yes, during that time period China was rather busy peacefully killing, torturing and destroying its own population, infrastructure and history.

Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP09 Mar 2018 10:51 a.m. PST

China is making step by step their old Empire… even now… they have a new Emperor… for life…


History always repeats itself….

Amicalement
Amrand

Personal logo Cacique Caribe Supporting Member of TMP09 Mar 2018 12:37 p.m. PST

Maybe Xi Jinping is the new Mao, "for the New Era".

link

Dan
TMP link

Charlie 1209 Mar 2018 10:00 p.m. PST

they have a new Emperor… for life…

Maybe Xi Jinping is the new Mao, "for the New Era".

Spoken with ZERO knowledge of the Chinese power structure.

Xi will have his way as long as the power brokers allow him to. Remember Khrushchev? He held the supreme power. Until he tripped up over Cuba. And then was quietly retired. Same can happen to Xi….

Personal logo Cacique Caribe Supporting Member of TMP09 Mar 2018 11:02 p.m. PST

Charlie12

Oh my! Well, I may not have your ample Megamind, but those are the same damn two options given to any other emperor or dictator. There's forced retirement and then there's forced "retirement".

So what's your great insightful revelation again?

Dan
TMP link

picture

Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP10 Mar 2018 11:39 a.m. PST

Let's see….

Amicalement
Armand

Sorry - only verified members can post on the forums.