Jacob723 | 06 Mar 2018 4:48 a.m. PST |
Hello TMP members, I have recently started making an early Successor Ptolemaic army. I have purchased a Warlord Games Successor army starter set. Some time ago I also purchased a set of plastic victrix Macedonian Hypaspists. I am wondering if these miniatures can be used as elite bodyguards for a Ptolemaic army? |
Jacob723 | 06 Mar 2018 4:49 a.m. PST |
Hello TMP members, I have recently started making an early Successor Ptolemaic army. I have purchased a Warlord Games Successor army starter set. Some time ago I also purchased a set of plastic victrix Macedonian Hypaspists. I am wondering if these miniatures can be used as elite bodyguards for a Ptolemaic army? Kind regards Jacob |
BigRedBat | 06 Mar 2018 5:45 a.m. PST |
I reckon they could- particularly in the earlier period. |
oldbob | 06 Mar 2018 10:09 a.m. PST |
Hopefully J.Jonas will respond, he is very knowledgeable on the Macedonians. |
Prince Rupert of the Rhine | 06 Mar 2018 2:46 p.m. PST |
Well worth checking out J.Jonas website Ancient battles for loads of good info and inspiring painting. link |
Skeptic | 06 Mar 2018 8:49 p.m. PST |
Have you seen these Ptolemaic figures, around half-way down? link |
Marcus Brutus | 07 Mar 2018 6:23 a.m. PST |
The Ptolemaic figure I saw on Dark Fable are for the 2nd century and too late for an early Successor Ptolemaic army. |
BigRedBat | 07 Mar 2018 7:49 a.m. PST |
They are missing something that no self respecting guardsman would be without- a pike. In fact, some of the Dark Fable minis are missing other things that guardsmen would value even more highly than a pike… |
JJartist | 08 Mar 2018 7:35 a.m. PST |
Difficult to say. In the early wars the hypaspists fragmented into small Agema units for all the contenders. The original core unit of survivors of Alexander's campaigns became the silver shields. Hypaspists used pikes in the wars of the Successors, at least in pitched battles. There isn't any reason why they could not still do guard duty armed as hoplites with spear and large shield, or use this gear in sieges. It does seem the hoplite/hypaspist was a thing of the past when the early wars ended. OTOH we dont have a lot of key visual or granular text information from the Successor period that reinforces any of this, only sources on the Sarcophagus which clearly depicts guardsmen fighting in hoplite gear, but supposedly represents Issus. |
Jacob723 | 09 Mar 2018 4:50 a.m. PST |
Alright then. So it would look like it would be ok to use these models in an early Successor Ptolemaic army. Thanks to those who have already commented. Much appreciated. If you or anyone else finds or knows any more about this topic I would love to hear from you. |