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Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP27 Feb 2018 12:19 p.m. PST

I find this nice model of the Arrow …

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Main page
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And this….

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But not much more about them…


Are there wargamers who used them… and any book about their history you recomended?…


Thanks in advance for your guidance.

Amicalement
Armand

Personal logo Cacique Caribe Supporting Member of TMP27 Feb 2018 12:23 p.m. PST

Fine looking vessel!

Dan

Brechtel19827 Feb 2018 12:52 p.m. PST

If you are interested, seeing the Philadelphia at the Smithsonian is a real treat.

I have wooden ship models of the Prince de Neufchatel, a privateer from the War of 1812, and the USS Niagara which fought at Lake Erie in 1813.

I didn't build them, but bought them from a specialist maker and they are excellent models.

I got them because of the wooden ship model collection in the Smithsonian, which is impressive.

historygamer27 Feb 2018 2:22 p.m. PST

Now the second one was a good link. You are getting better. :-) +1 for that.

The problem with the above kit is that it is an 1814 gun boat, with carronades, so not appropriate for AWI gaming. So -1 for that.

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You might want to post that to the Napoleonic boards where 1812 stuff works better.

Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP27 Feb 2018 2:42 p.m. PST

The Naval Napoleonic Fórum was absorved by the Age of Sail Fórum my friend…. (smile)

Thanks Kevin… I take note.

Amicalement
Armand

historygamer28 Feb 2018 8:32 a.m. PST

"The Naval Napoleonic Fórum was absorved by the Age of Sail Fórum my friend…. (smile)"

That may be true, but why is this thread showing up on American Revolution message board since it is 30 years out of the period?

Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP28 Feb 2018 11:12 a.m. PST

Because I want info about American Gunboats in the AIW… and as I said I cannot found much about them…


Amicalement
Armand

historygamer28 Feb 2018 11:38 a.m. PST

Probably not much on the internet, but these types of watercraft are covered in different books on the period. What specifically were you looking for? Pictures? Written accounts?

American gun boats were used in the Philly campaign, and in the 1776 battles in upstate NY. Is there a specific campaign you are interested in?

138SquadronRAF Supporting Member of TMP28 Feb 2018 11:58 a.m. PST

War Artisan needs this one for his 1:300 range.

Sorry Jeff, I keep piling the work on you.

Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP28 Feb 2018 12:22 p.m. PST

Books… and models for a friend….


Amicalement
Armand

Blutarski28 Feb 2018 12:49 p.m. PST

"The History of the American Sailing Navy – The Ships and Their Development" by Howard I Chapelle covers the subject of American Revolutionary War gunboats/gundalows and provides some useful diagrams thereof.

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Rawdon28 Feb 2018 2:31 p.m. PST

Old Glory sells an OK model of the Philadelphia in 25mm. Reasonably accurate but the hull does not have the correct curvature.

In 15mm it sells a not-as-good model of the Philadelphia, but also sells a Great Lakes Gunboat model that is very similar (although of course less intricate) to the model you show.

Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP01 Mar 2018 11:27 a.m. PST

Many thanks boys!. (smile)

Amicalement
Armand

Bill N01 Mar 2018 3:36 p.m. PST

"The History of the American Sailing Navy – The Ships and Their Development" by Howard I Chapelle covers the subject of American Revolutionary War gunboats/gundalows and provides some useful diagrams thereof.

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I remember a book in the 1970s that covered the navy from the AWI through at least the War of 1812. It was full of ship diagrams and even had some British ships. If that is in fact the same book then I would recommend it as well.

Brechtel19802 Mar 2018 5:56 a.m. PST

Chapelle's book is a necessary volume for any study of the US Navy during the period.

I've had it for over fifty years and it has been more than helpful to study the period.

And that isn't all that Chapelle wrote on sailing ships.

If anyone is interested look him up on abebooks, google books and perhaps Amazon. None of his work will be disappointing.

Blutarski02 Mar 2018 8:41 a.m. PST

Hi Bill -
You might very well be thinking of Chapelle. My copy of his "The History of the American Sailing Navy – The Ships and Their Development" is copyrighted 1949.

Hi Brechtel198 -
Quite agree.

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dantheman Supporting Member of TMP05 Mar 2018 1:04 p.m. PST

The Pennsylvania State Navy had galleys patrolling the Delaware River just before the Battle of Trenton. They controlled the lower Delaware and wreaked havoc. Two books describing their use are ‘The Day is Ours' and ‘The Crossing'. Both about the retreat from NY and the battle of Trenton and Princeton.

Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP05 Mar 2018 3:45 p.m. PST

Thanks also!

Amicalement
Armand

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