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HarryB1961 Inactive Member16 Feb 2018 2:01 p.m. PST

Just prepping some Bicorne ecw figures. Puzzled by a ball shaped attachment to the bandolier on some of the figures. It's next to the musket ball bag, on the right positioned just above the apostles.Proportionally, it seems to be about the size of a satsuma. I've looked in Osprey elite no.25 and a few of the plates do show such an attachment, in fact they look to have a 'lid' or 'cap' (plates C/G/J). The figure sculpture ( Nick Collier?) has managed to get this detail spot on however i can't find an explanation as to what it actually is. Can anybody help ??

advocate16 Feb 2018 2:08 p.m. PST

Fine powder for priming?

HarryB1961 Inactive Member16 Feb 2018 2:27 p.m. PST

Hi advocate. Thanks for the input, i'm totally in the dark here. I would say looking at the Osprey plates, the 'ball' object seems very small to contain enough priming powder for any extended firing in battle. Also found another reference to this object in figure 94 Arms & Armour of the English civil wars by David Blackmore. The 'ball' in this plate is even smaller so i'm really confused now.

Drunken skunk Inactive Member16 Feb 2018 2:40 p.m. PST

Waddling pouch? Or an error replicated?

Drunken skunk Inactive Member16 Feb 2018 2:41 p.m. PST

Grrrrrr, auto correct! Wadding pouch

mollinary16 Feb 2018 2:42 p.m. PST

I think there is a slight error in labelling Plate J in the Osprey Elite 25. They have two drawings of bandoliers labelled J3 and J4. In the descriptive text they get these the wrong way round. The text referring to your object is as follows: ‘The small metal container seen on J4 (sic) contained oil.' Hope this helps.


Sobieski Inactive Member16 Feb 2018 4:35 p.m. PST

What does a "waddling pouch" look like? It sounds sort of cute.

robert piepenbrink Supporting Member of TMP16 Feb 2018 5:32 p.m. PST

Waddling pouches were sort of predecessors for the electronic wallet. The money just quietly disappeared while you didn't think you'd spent THAT much. I think they kept the feet tucked up unless they were actually moving.

Balin Shortstuff Inactive Member16 Feb 2018 6:23 p.m. PST

Probably an oil bottle. link

HarryB1961 Inactive Member17 Feb 2018 2:47 a.m. PST

Oil bottle !!! Yes that's brilliant guys, thank you. Just re-read that text mollinary, and you're right, your explanation makes perfect sense.
I presume the oil was for maintenance, maybe to wipe on metal parts of the musket to keep rust at bay ??

Balin Shortstuff Inactive Member17 Feb 2018 8:23 a.m. PST

The matchlock mechanism is finger powered, the weak spring is only used to return the "hammer"(serpentine) to it's original rest position. Since any friction resistance created by rust or dirt is annoyingly noticed, it gets oiled when needed.

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