| DETHSTRYKER | 30 Jun 2005 12:16 a.m. PST |
Looking for the guys at the very bottom (guys with heavy AC): picture Or any of the Cybertech Bunkerbreakers… link |
| Mike of White Dog | 30 Jun 2005 12:20 a.m. PST |
Over the past three or four years I have managed to get most of the Space Lords from eBay sales. Most look to be a dealer selling off old stock. I make periodic Google searches with little success. Recommend eBay and patience. Mike B |
| Scurvy | 30 Jun 2005 12:22 a.m. PST |
I have some of the Phagons but none of those. |
| DETHSTRYKER | 30 Jun 2005 12:22 a.m. PST |
do you have any extras of the Bunkerbusters with heavy weapons that you may want to sell? ::poke-poke:: |
| Scurvy | 30 Jun 2005 12:23 a.m. PST |
As a heads up Millisims Australia was selling off huge amounts for crazy prices a few years ago. Maybe ask on some Aussie gameing forums as bunkerbreakers were one of the factions they were flogging off. |
| DETHSTRYKER | 30 Jun 2005 12:24 a.m. PST |
man…i have just been striking out… I remember a now defunct mini shop around me having some a while back… i always ment to pic some up… |
| Scurvy | 30 Jun 2005 12:33 a.m. PST |
I got 50 figs for $25.00 AUD so dont pay too much is my advice. |
| Batman | 30 Jun 2005 12:43 a.m. PST |
OOOO I like these guys. Good thing I'm broke, leaving Dethstryker with all the luck. How come no one bought those molds? They're pretty good sculpts for their age. |
| Ivan DBA | 30 Jun 2005 1:22 a.m. PST |
I think Stan Johansen has a few odds and ends:
link |
| JerryCan | 30 Jun 2005 1:23 a.m. PST |
I know where You can find them: in my cellar! Yeah! But I won't sell any of them (evil grin) |
| Doug em4miniatures | 30 Jun 2005 2:59 a.m. PST |
We purchased the rights to the range and will be producing them from new moulds made from the original masters. We are nearly there with our new casting unit and are still hopeful of starting the releases of this range before winter this year. Doug |
| mrwigglesworth | 30 Jun 2005 3:22 a.m. PST |
The sentry box in Canada has a buttload of SL minis at 40% off.
link |
| mrwigglesworth | 30 Jun 2005 3:23 a.m. PST |
look under "HOBBY PRODUCTS FIGS " |
| emau99 | 30 Jun 2005 5:54 a.m. PST |
I love those figs! They have lots of character. I wish they were still in production. |
| Scurvy | 30 Jun 2005 6:03 a.m. PST |
WOO HOO Bloody great news there doug!!!!!!!! |
| emau99 | 30 Jun 2005 6:05 a.m. PST |
*slaps forehead* OK…I must have skipped Doug's post somehow…sorry about that. Doug, that is FANTASTIC news. I will be eagerly awaiting these releases! |
Hundvig  | 30 Jun 2005 7:21 a.m. PST |
em4's bringing back the Space Lords range? Now that's just very cool indeed. |
Patrick Sexton  | 30 Jun 2005 7:22 a.m. PST |
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| Patrick Sexton | 30 Jun 2005 7:27 a.m. PST |
Sorry, it just dawned on me that the auction is where you got the picture from. Doh! |
| CondoGamer15 | 30 Jun 2005 7:29 a.m. PST |
Doug, will you be producing some of the great Space Lord civilian packs? They have some excellent free traders, bar patrons, etc. Thanks! Scott |
| DETHSTRYKER | 30 Jun 2005 7:56 a.m. PST |
question is: will the new molds be for METAL mini's or that crappy polystrene? |
| Area23 | 30 Jun 2005 8:21 a.m. PST |
The goatmen and robots are cool. |
| Doug em4miniatures | 30 Jun 2005 8:27 a.m. PST |
Scott – yes the WHOLE range. Dethstryker – have a care Sir! We don't use anything crappy!! These will be in our line of unpainted, metal miniatures and not our high quality, ABS plastic range :-) Doug |
| DETHSTRYKER | 30 Jun 2005 8:48 a.m. PST |
no… i ment i dont like my minis in plastic… |
| Jake B | 30 Jun 2005 8:58 a.m. PST |
They do show up on eBay fairly frequently. It is good news that they are going to be back in production. |
| DETHSTRYKER | 30 Jun 2005 9:34 a.m. PST |
it is as they were outstanding mini's of the time! |
| Allen57 | 30 Jun 2005 9:40 a.m. PST |
Great to hear Spacelords are coming back. I need to fill out some of the range. Any possibility of new figures being added? Al |
| Doug em4miniatures | 30 Jun 2005 9:58 a.m. PST |
Al, It's a big range so it will take a long time to bring out all the existing stuff, bearing in mind we are also going to produce the old Dunwich Detective range AND the old Fantasy Warrior range. Soooo, no plans to add to Spacelords and is we ever did (unlikely) we'd have to track down the original sculptor otherwise there wouldn't be a lot of point – we may just as well start a new range if we were using new sculptors. |
| DETHSTRYKER | 30 Jun 2005 10:08 a.m. PST |
Doug,
I love you. I really liked their Dunwich Range. And the fact that they and Spacelords will be in metal is outstanding! |
| Trapondur | 30 Jun 2005 10:44 a.m. PST |
@em4 do you have the rights for the rules, too?
the minis are easy to find, but the rulebook is very very rare, even on german ebay. |
| Jay Arnold | 30 Jun 2005 12:17 p.m. PST |
Hey Doug, please do Phagons first, please, please, please! Love dem beastmen! I've got the start of a Phagon force, little more than a reinforced squad, but I would love to have a reinforced platoon/short company. I think the Old Crow alien skimmers would go great with them. |
| Jake B | 30 Jun 2005 1:20 p.m. PST |
There are some fun little vehicles in that range too. |
| The Fighter Ace | 30 Jun 2005 1:32 p.m. PST |
Um, never heard of this range. Can someone tell me the scale? 28mm? True 25mm? They certainly bring to mind that Heavy Metal/80's grit style perfectly. Wow. |
| counterattack4k | 30 Jun 2005 2:23 p.m. PST |
Doug em4 — How soon for Phagon Battleclones??
I NEED Battleclones! |
| counterattack4k | 30 Jun 2005 2:27 p.m. PST |
Fighter Ace — looking at my collection, they appear to be closer to 25mm. But are such great figs I don't care. |
| DETHSTRYKER | 30 Jun 2005 2:54 p.m. PST |
yeah, i think they are somewhere in the middle. larger then GZG but not full blown 28mms… |
| Scurvy | 30 Jun 2005 4:42 p.m. PST |
The phagons mix well with the bigger size figs. After all how big should a goatman be? |
| alien BLOODY HELL surfer | 01 Jul 2005 4:04 a.m. PST |
Now I know what these figures are! Had a load kicking around for years and have never known what they were! |
| JerryCan | 01 Jul 2005 5:46 a.m. PST |
So finally I can complete my Phagon – er – hive? Due to the original army lists the Phagon needed lots of troopers – more than any army else in the Spacelord universe. Hey Doug, maybe we can use the fabulous EM4-plastics as O'Schily's franctireurs. They were mentioned in the fluff but never "materialized". |
| BlackWidowPilot | 01 Jul 2005 1:39 p.m. PST |
<<We purchased the rights to the range and will be producing them from new moulds made from the original masters. We are nearly there with our new casting unit and are still hopeful of starting the releases of this range before winter this year.>> Doug, IIRC there were two new alien races released just before the original manufacturer (Hobby Products) went out of business. Did you acquire *those* masters as well? I have plenty of Phagons, clones, battlebeasts, and walkers alike, plenty of wartechs (light, medium, and heavy), and evem some civvies, but I would definitely like to add the newer dudes should you release them. Thanks! Leland R. Erickson
Metal Express Content Team
metal-express.net |
| JerryCan | 02 Jul 2005 2:17 p.m. PST |
@BlackWidowPilot I never heard about alien races in the Spacelords. At least I never saw any minis of them in the stores here in Germany. Besides Cybertechs and Phagon two other human races where produced: the Sardaykin (does anybody remember the Fedaykin and Sardaukar of Dune?) and the Yoyodyne (does anybody remember the movie Buckaroo Banzai?) The first appeared when one commander took Earth's elite forces and built up his own empire with them while the bulk of Terran troops formed the Cybertechs. The Yoyadyne where a army of Japanese fashion – Samurai with laser swords. Beside that the fluff mentioned an alien race called the S'Krill. But like O'Schily's franctireurs they never appeared. Oops could the the latter be the troops of Otto Schily (the current German secretary of inner affairs)? But at that time when Spacelords appeared he was just a famous politician in the Green party, that tried to rebell against the older established parties here in Germany. |
| BlackWidowPilot | 08 Jul 2005 6:19 p.m. PST |
JerryCan, thanks for the background on the Space Lords; I for one enjoy learning what inspires other artists. It seems to me that the Hobby Products crew likes to poke some fun at their own domestic politicians and historical figures as I often do. ;) Perhaps the aliens described to me so many years ago by a store manager at D&J Hobby out in Campbell, CA were the S'Krill. The description was of the stereotypical small humanoids with big heads and psionic powers. They sounded highly amusing from the description, and this person (who spoke and read fluent German) was IMO a fairly reliable source of information… Hopefully E4M will track down the original sculptors (Ochmann, et al) and commission some new races. I for one already have plenty of Phagons, clones, and beasts to overrun half the known galaxy. I also have a strong contingent of Sardaykin Legion (yup, I too got the Sardaykin/Sardakar connection as well…). Leland R. Erickson |
| JerryCan | 15 Jul 2005 1:23 p.m. PST |
Leland, AFAIK the S'Krill were supposed to be a reptile race. Your description matches the one of – well – psionics mentioned in the rules. I bought most of my Spacelords when the game was OOP. So I managed to get a Cybertech batallion, a Sardaykin legion and a Yoyodyne tankentai with an additional Humsz butai.
But getting Phagon was very hard. Because You need lots of figures to form a whole "heap". And following the Phagon TOE You have to field Phagon and Clones separately. I think the Phagon army list was not very well done. BTW it happened that I bought a rule set on EBAY. The seller was … Josef Ochmann. As I found out later he had been working as teacher in our town during former years. The world is so small.
Werner Klocke – the other major Spacelords sculptor – is doing work for Reaper now IIC. Holger |
| badass jamie | 04 Aug 2005 10:11 a.m. PST |
It's good news that these minis will be back on production somewhere in the near future. They are to a certain extent a good substitute for ranges major company produces and a good addition to other ranges by smaler companies with nevertheless excellent sculptors like Mark Copplestone (Future Wars /old and new editions)and the jolly Scotsmen (under various names – now Urban Mammoth);). Two things to get some remarks by Holger straight. The most important as first comment: Werner Klocke NEVER did any SL-MInis. He joined Hobby Products after I left (and SL had stopped as a design scheme at that point)and worked only on the remaining Fantasy-ranges , mostly 15mm DEMONWORLD (for which I did some as well – the dwarves). A good deal of the SL (some civilians, some aliens, Bunkerbrecher vehicles, THE CANTINA SET (great sculpting job!!!!)some Bunkerbrecher veterans with heavy wpns and the great bionic cybertech veterans/Scouts) were done by MICHAEL IMMIG. The rest which is about 85% of the range was done by me. The second part is that the Phagon list was meant to be this way. I wanted the possiblity to either field a core force of Battleclones with Walker support or an army of Phagon and Battle-beasts themselves. This was a way to get people into buying them as some liked the Battleclones but not he Phagons and vice versa. And above all it was something I (personally ) wanted to be done as the other company never did Space Beastmen and never intended to embark on this. The Sarday'kin where meant to be some kind of Space Landsknechte (as I'm an avid early Renaissance gamer) and the Yoyodyne came to live after a 4 weeks holidays in Japan which really hit me (Samurai-mad). The S'krill were just an idea and never came to life even as a design sketch. SL sold so badly in Germany due to may reasons that HP stopped it. At some time there were thoughts on redoing them in 15mm on hexes as a rehash of DEMONWORLD which THANK CHRIST never came to being. We really had a lot of fun talking about the background and we just made jokes while sculpting at the factory and Michael and I inspired each other with new ideas on what loonies there where in each fraction. The remarks about Otto Schily are definitely right as we didn't take him serious – the question is whether people do it right now. Thanks to all of you guys who love to have games with these minis. It's good to get a positive remark about your even a decade later after long years of ignorance in your own homecountry. |
| BlackWidowPilot | 04 Aug 2005 7:22 p.m. PST |
<<It's good news that these minis will be back on production somewhere in the near future. They are to a certain extent a good substitute for ranges major company produces and a good addition to other ranges by smaler companies with nevertheless excellent sculptors like Mark Copplestone (Future Wars /old and new editions)and the jolly Scotsmen (under various names – now Urban Mammoth);).>> IMO they rank among the *classics* of sci-fi miniatures. I consider them some of the finest, most imaginative figure series ever rendered. IMO Space Lords should have recieved far more accolades than it did. IMO the line deserves an Origins Award for its numerous qualities… <<Two things to get some remarks by Holger straight. The most important as first comment: Werner Klocke NEVER did any SL-MInis. He joined Hobby Products after I left (and SL had stopped as a design scheme at that point)and worked only on the remaining Fantasy-ranges , mostly 15mm DEMONWORLD (for which I did some as well – the dwarves). A good deal of the SL (some civilians, some aliens, Bunkerbrecher vehicles, THE CANTINA SET (great sculpting job!!!!)some Bunkerbrecher veterans with heavy wpns and the great bionic cybertech veterans/Scouts) were done by MICHAEL IMMIG. The rest which is about 85% of the range was done by me.>> Oh! So YOU are to blame for separating me from so much of my hard-earned money, eh?!! Bravo!! I truly appreciate what you and your associates created with Space Lords. :) <<The second part is that the Phagon list was meant to be this way. I wanted the possiblity to either field a core force of Battleclones with Walker support or an army of Phagon and Battle-beasts themselves. This was a way to get people into buying them as some liked the Battleclones but not he Phagons and vice versa. And above all it was something I (personally ) wanted to be done as the other company never did Space Beastmen and never intended to embark on this.>> Lucky me! I have enough of both to make two very NASTY alien armies, beasties, walkers, and all…oddly enough, *I* liked both the Phagons AND the clones, and see no reason wny they shouldn't all be in the same army ala the heterogeneous forces fielded by many a colonial power in both World Wars… <<The Sarday'kin where meant to be some kind of Space Landsknechte (as I'm an avid early Renaissance gamer)>> THESE are some of my favorites; superb powered armour infantry that actually LOOK the part! i use my two 16-figure platoons as "Imperial terran Marines" for playtesting my own set of SF skirmish rules…complete with a converted "Glador" model from Perry Rhodan as an "Imperial Terran Marine LCI" (Landing Craft Infantry) for enforcing the Pax Terra. <<and the Yoyodyne came to live after a 4 weeks holidays in Japan which really hit me (Samurai-mad).>> I for one went for over a decade without ANY decent "space samurai" minis until these hit the shelves. I have quite a mob of these yet to be painted as well; I am still unable to settle on a paint scheme!! Too many choices amongst my many volumes of Steven Turnbull's works on the Samurai and their history… <<The S'krill were just an idea and never came to life even as a design sketch. SL sold so badly in Germany due to may reasons that HP stopped it. At some time there were thoughts on redoing them in 15mm on hexes as a rehash of DEMONWORLD which THANK CHRIST never came to being.>> Sorry to hear that SL failed so badly in Germany. :( But I for one wouldn't fight you too hard of you brought SL back…even in 15mm (Great! just what I need! Another scale for gaming in!) <<We really had a lot of fun talking about the background and we just made jokes while sculpting at the factory and Michael and I inspired each other with new ideas on what loonies there where in each fraction.>> I for one truly appreciate the creative process, especially when you work with people that share your creative vision! Definitely one of life's genuine pleasures! :) <<The remarks about Otto Schily are definitely right as we didn't take him serious – the question is whether people do it right now.>> LOL! I think I know what you mean; we've got our own infestations of politicians with no scruples and fewer brains…;p <<Thanks to all of you guys who love to have games with these minis. It's good to get a positive remark about your even a decade later after long years of ignorance in your own homecountry.>> With your kind permission, I would like to use them as the *official* playtest figures for my own mad brand of sci-fi skirmish rules. Please let me know if this would be acceptable to you; I will give full written credit and photo caption credits everywhere possible! The SL figures IMO are about as perfect for 'generic" science fiction skirmish gaming as one can hope for! :) Respectfully, Leland R. Erickson
Metal Express
metal-express.net
(Now, when the Hell can I find the time to finish all of my wartechs? Dammit! I want to go KILL something!) |
| dude56 | 26 Jul 2006 7:51 a.m. PST |
Hey badass jamie, just read this thread by pure chance; thanks for the nice comments! Yes, it's true, Werner Klocke never did any SL minis. Only we two did, and we had lots of fun with both background and sculpting … Thanks to everybody playing with our minis – may they be available for a long time! Michael |
